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I am Guillermo del Toro, director, writer, producer. AMA. (self.IAmA)

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[–]GuillermoDelToroHere[S] 1013 points1014 points  (153 children)

It is a question that I myself ask of the world many times, but we have gone through basically every studio and asked for financing, and they are not interested. I think that the first movie made its budget back, and a little bit of profit, but then it was very very big on video and DVD. The story repeated itself with the second already, it made its money back at the box office, but a small margin of profit in the release of the theatrical print, but was very very big on DVD and video. Sadly now from a business point of view all the studios know is that you don't have that safety net of the DVD and video, so they view the project as dangerous.

Creatively, I would love to make it. Creatively. But it is proven almost impossible to finance. Not from MY side, but from the studio side. If I was a multimillionaire, I would finance it myself, but I spend all my money on rubber monsters.

[–]KingToasty 161 points162 points  (7 children)

It's okay, those rubber monsters are kickass.

And thanks for Pacific Rim, that movie reignited my love for spectacle and wonder. What a goddamn film.

[–]Tarthus 35 points36 points  (3 children)

This. I thought that the phrase "edge of your seat," as it applies to movies, was just an expression. I realized I was on the edge of my seat and leaning toward the screen about 15 minutes into the movie.

The expression is based on a true story.

[–]KingToasty 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That mid-air chainsword was one of the greatest things I've seen in 2014 (I just watched it this year). And considering how my year is going, that's really impressive.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This.

[–]Elmerblatch -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This. That. The other thing.

[–]jhc1415 4 points5 points  (2 children)

To quote David Cross.

[–]mobilemedic 0 points1 point  (1 child)

David Cross for president.

[–]jhc1415 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And when he is elected he must give every address wearing those boobs.

[–]dudleymooresbooze 500 points501 points  (63 children)

I never in my life thought I would type out this sentence, let alone to Guillermo Del Toro...

Please do a kickstarter for it.

[–]HoldOnToYrButts 395 points396 points  (20 children)

This is a actually a good idea. If a guy can raise $70,000 for some potato salad, surely Hellboy 3 can raise... how much do you need again?

Hellboy 2: The Golden Army

Budget: $85,000,000 (estimated)

Oh.

[–]venturoo 65 points66 points  (0 children)

yeah....

[–]atxranchhand 36 points37 points  (1 child)

Yea, but if we raised 10 million I bet we could get some studio to pay attention...

[–]bigboy65 21 points22 points  (0 children)

You're right. Here's the plan. You all donate 10 million to me and I pwomise that I will deliver it to Guillermo myself.

[–]Awesomeade 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Why not try to convince a movie studio to match whatever is made in the Kickstarter? I'd bet some Hollywood exec would be adventurous enough to shell out half of the total budget of a film if that meant they could get the same return as if they'd financed the entire thing.

It'd still be a huge Kickstarter goal, but this would make it much more achievable.

[–]squat251 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kickstarting ~40 Million dollars? As awesome as Hellboy 3 would be, I think that's a pretty extreme goal. Not to mention, imagine how hard it would be to do any rewards. You can't exactly early access a movie, and tshirts detract from the total amount of cash (especially when you think of how many people would need to donate).

[–]Angry_Concrete 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Can't there be ROI with kickstarter? I really don't know how that works. All I've seen about kickstarter is people donating money for maybe some extra perks. Why can't a person donate a hundred bucks, and if the movie breaks even, he gets his money back. If it makes 10% above costs, that dude get 110 bucks back and so on? bam, fuck the studio control of Hollywood forever?

[–]DaLateDentArthurDent 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It's illegal to give the money back on Kickstarter. Zach Braff spoke about this. He wanted to give everyone who donated a share of the profits, but Kickstarter doesn't allow it

[–]jthei 6 points7 points  (0 children)

"Illegal" isn't the right word, the US legalized 'crowd-investing' in 2012 but Kickstarter stayed the course with their current business model rather than becoming involved in equity funding.

It's a different type of business with different regulations and different goals. Ultimately Kickstarter believed it was in their best interest to allow people to make small donations without expecting a return in order to fund small creative projects that don't hinge on success or profitability.

[–]sorif 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fuck me, this is a GREAT idea!

[–]outshyn 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Budget: $85,000,000

Welllll.... As a labor of love, Hellboy 3 could probably be done for half (or even a third!) of that amount. If the actors weren't paid quiiiite as much and if they didn't blow their budget on CGI everywhere, it's possible. I mean, the entire first season of Game of Thrones cost $50 million, even with the expensive actors. So big sets and great actors and magical effects can be had for cheaper than $85 million.

However, even at that lower level, Kickstarter can't pull it off. Their most-funded project was only for $10 million, and the most-funded movie was Veronica Mars with $5 million. My gut says that Hellboy 3 has lots of fanboys who would pony up cash for it, but even if they beat the best ever, maybe they're getting $15 million. I just don't know if Hellboy 3 can be done for $15 million.

(Pan's Labyrinth was only $19 million to make, but that was 10 years ago now.)

[–]DaftPrince 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Someone get Chris Roberts on the phone!

[–]tmac25 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Just like Star Citizen, maybe do the Kickstarter to gauge interest and get a good chunk of the film financed, then have the studio pick up the remainder? Stranger things have happened.

[–]Bearded_Axe_Wound 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Surely it's harder to kickstart a movie to that level compared to a game. You can't release an alpha version of a movie to keep people interested.

[–]tmac25 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It wouldn't solely be based on Kickstarter funding, and Del Toro doesn't need an alpha to excite his fans.

[–]ezekielziggy 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Don't underestimate crowd funding.

[–]IAmAWhaleProstitute 11 points12 points  (3 children)

The highest funded Kickstarter project to date is $10 million. You think he's going to raise somewhere between 8 to 10 times that amount for a movie that only had somewhere between minor and average success? It didn't even make its money back in domestic sales, if it's going international that's a whole other set of issues to deal with. Not to mention $80-$100 million is just for the production budget, that's not including the cost of DVDs to everyone that donates or the added advertising budget of about tens of millions that would be needed if they were going to send it to theaters.

This isn't some labor of love Youtube video we're talking about, crowd funding has not reached this level yet. Wikipedia shows the highest crowd-funded project ever at $47 million with the second highest at $12 million.

[–]Zazzerpan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On Kickstarter sure but Star Citizen has pulled in almost $48 million in crowdfunding and it's much more niche audience than a Del Toro film would be. I think it would be worth a shot. Just have the goal for the full budget plus some rather than underestimating as project tend to do to try to secure funding. This way if it doesn't succeed people are out of their money.

[–]Charwinger21 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The highest funded Kickstarter project to date is $10 million.

This isn't some labor of love Youtube video we're talking about, crowd funding has not reached this level yet. Wikipedia shows the highest crowd-funded project ever at $47 million with the second highest at $12 million.

The Ubuntu Edge received $13 in funding (but didn't reach its goal).

[–]bleepingsheep 148 points149 points  (24 children)

I've never donated to a kickstarter before and especially not for something promoted by millionaires, but, damn, I would throw down $20+ if it meant getting Hellboy 3 made.

[–]It_Just_Got_Real 145 points146 points  (10 children)

I would throw down $20+ if it meant getting Hellboy 3 made.

"Congratulations, you funded one pixel of a monster in one frame."

[–]Jinnofthelamp 9 points10 points  (7 children)

So after doing some math I now know how many Del Toro pixels you get per dollar spent. This is based on Hellboy 2, 85 million, 1920x1080, 24fps. This gives us 175.6 pixels per dollar. So for $20 we get 3512.8. Yay math!

[–]ImBoredToo 15 points16 points  (6 children)

Hmm something seems off.

How many pixels are in a 1080p, 2 hour movie?

1920x1080 pixels   24 frames   120 minutes   60 seconds
---------------- X --------- X ----------- X ---------- =
    1 frame        1 second      1 movie      1 minute

358,318,080,000 pixels per movie. Hellboy (2004) cost $66M, Hellboy 2 (2008) cost $85M. I think it's fair to assume Hellboy 3 in 2016/2017 will cost about $100M-$150M. Using the upper estimate of $150M...

358,318,080,000 pixels         1 movie         2389 Pixels
---------------------- X ------------------- = ----------- (rounded up)
       1 movie           150,000,000 dollars    1 dollar

So $20 would give you at least

47,776 Pixels.

[–]proxyedditor 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Why are you using the lowly resolution of 1920x1080 pixels? It would almost certainly be shot/scanned at 4K resolution if made today.

[–]Charwinger21 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It'll likely be shot at around either 4096x2160 or 8192x4320 (depending on when it is shot), and there is a good chance that it would be shot at 48 Hz, 60 Hz, or even 120 Hz, however the home media release may not be at that resolution or frame rate (thanks to the limited size of home media, with Blu-Ray movies currently being 30 GB compared with 1 TB (960 GB for The Hobbit) in the theatres).

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If it is 4096x2160 at 60 Hz with a budget of $150 m, then $20 will buy almost 509,608 pixels.

(3,822,059,520,000 pixels, 25480.3968 pixels per dollar)

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If we jump up to 8192x4320 and 120 Hz (a couple years in the future), then we're looking at almost 4,076,864 pixels for $20 (assuming it is still $150 million).

(30,576,476,160,000 pixels, 203,843.1744 pixels per dollar)

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edit: double that for 3D

[–]Official_Batman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

we're looking at almost 4,076,864 pixels for $20 (assuming it is still $150 million).

Which, considering each frame is 35,389,440 pixels, is under 1/8 of a frame viewed at 1/120th of a second. Wow.

[–]IhaveToUseThisName 2 points3 points  (2 children)

/r/theydidthemath

[–]Klutztheduck 4 points5 points  (0 children)

all the studios know is that you don't have that safety net of the DVD and video, so they view the project as dangerous.

It might show the studio heads that there is definitely an audience and they are shaving $$$ off the top with the kickstarter. Heck star citizen is at what 42 mil right now? I know it is no longer on kickstarter but it did very well on there in the first place. I paid $200+ myself.

[–]bleepingsheep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean it wouldn't just be me donating haha.

[–]ArtaxNOOOOOO 34 points35 points  (5 children)

Same here. Even if it makes me sound petty and small, I would donate to this when I have never donated to another kickstarter.

[–]EDoftheDEAD 4 points5 points  (4 children)

I'd seriously be up for setting this kickstarter up. Who's in?

[–]seka1980 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Im totaly with you

[–]EDoftheDEAD 0 points1 point  (2 children)

This may sound stupid but how do you actually start something like this?

[–]snoharm 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You get the actual content creator to make it. You don't start a Kickstarter for someone else's work. I'm sure Mr. Del Toro is capable of handling his own career.

[–]EDoftheDEAD -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ok, relax.

[–]Ryb0 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Never donated a dime in my entire life (28). I'm in for $20.

[–]AgentBachman 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Glad you'd shell out for a thing that truly matters.

[–]Darth_Meatloaf 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The only necessary reward for giving to the campaign would be the movie on DVD or Blu-Ray once it's released on disk.

[–]Wood_Warden 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolutely

[–]En_Sabah_Nur 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd throw in on that shit AND a B.P.R.D. flick.

[–]averynicehat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I don't think kickstarter is gonna net what a big effects movie needs.

[–]270- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If 1,000 people upvoted your comment, and we took that to mean that they'd all throw in $20, and they all come through....we wouldn't even have funded two seconds of the movie.

[–]anjelblue 29 points30 points  (1 child)

i am a long time lurker, first time commenter, purely to say - i would absolutely give $100 plus of my money if it went towards making a hellboy 3 a possibility...

[–]Hurricane12112 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You have made the best 1st comment ever.

[–]Tastemysoupplz 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I would pitch in as well.

[–]black13n 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Raising at least $80 million through a kickstarter? Yea that's never gonna happen as much as I'd love to see Hellboy 3.

[–]wilddaddy 7 points8 points  (1 child)

You wouldn't need to raise the entire budget, you would only need enough to give a studio the incentive to pick it up.

[–]Darkenmal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If Kickstarter could raise 20 million somehow, that would get Hollywood's attention for sure.

[–]wescotte 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If they change the laws so your donation becomes an investment with a potential return I could see Kickstarter raising money for this type of project.

[–]Pantythief12 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As a huge hellboy fan and someone with more than enough money for themselves I would donate buckets of cash to a hellboy 3 kickstarter .

[–]logiman 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It would be great, and the names Hellboy and Guillermo del Toro would undoubtedly bring many to the project, but it would be extremely difficult to get the kind of funding needed for Hellboy 3. Not impossible, but difficult.

[–]seka1980 2 points3 points  (3 children)

This has got to happen. There must be a way that the fans could invest in getting this film made in return for a blu ray or something. Can someone do some numbers .

[–]I_know_nothing_atall 1 point2 points  (2 children)

A large problem with that idea is actually making money off of it. A problem with many kickstarters is that you're getting your budget from all the fans in exchange for something, in your case a blu ray. So if by some extremely rare chance they raised about $100 million to make the movie, they still need to invest in what would probably be hundreds of thousands of backers (since the average person is only going to donate around $10-$50) to give them all free copies of the movie.

In the end you're sacrificing a huge portion of the kickstarter funds to pay people back, as well as not actually making any money yourself for the project. And saying a movie that had a $66 mil budget for #1 and $82 mil budget for 2 should either be scaled back or that del Toro should do it as a labor of love would be ridiculous.

[–]seka1980 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Could there not be a situation where, say the movie cost $80 mil, people could invest a small amount of money and get a return if it was successful after a few years,. no matter how small, just like buying some penny shares?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

not on Kickstarter

[–]Slevo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes yes yes we need to do this

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mate think about the viability of that. Hint: it's not remotely viable.

[–]symon_says 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You clearly have no idea how much movies cost...

[–]jorgeartware -1 points0 points  (0 children)

and MY axe !! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxPGzj2L3n0

[–]mattoly 36 points37 points  (0 children)

"I spend all my money on rubber monsters" should be on your business card.

[–]compbioguy 18 points19 points  (2 children)

That's so disappointing. Anything fans can do to encourage studios to take some risk?

[–]GivePhysics 27 points28 points  (1 child)

I hear a Kickstarter pushing into action!

[–]WanderingGuru 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Shot in the dark... but have you approached Netflix about it? The fact that both Hellboy and Hellboy 2 did so very well on DVD and video feels like it would be a great fit for them and their customer base. They've been doing great with their original series House of Cards, Orange is the New Black, and a handful of other new ones and them branching out into helping making original movies would be a logical next step. To me it seems like a deal that would potentially make everyone happy.

[–]godie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

brilliant idea....if only the numbers backed it

[–]iRedditFromBehind 35 points36 points  (3 children)

Crowdfunding. I mean, a guy raised over $40,000 to make POTATO SALAD. I'm sure there are enough Hellboy fans worldwide that would love to contribute to a final movie.

[–]mattevil8419 18 points19 points  (1 child)

It does bum me out when potato salad guy gets that much money and this girl can't get near that for a handicap accessible van. http://www.youcaring.com/other/a-van-for-christmas/181453

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

A guy pitched a cooler with a speaker and a blender in it and he got over 2.5 million in a day.

[–]Satarob 6 points7 points  (0 children)

85 million, dude. That is extraordinarily ambitious.

[–]roger_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't know how this all works, so excuse my naivete -- but have you explored Netflix, Hulu, etc.?

[–]bradamantium92 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My life's ambition is now to make a fortune and personally fund Hellboy 3.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Is it possible to crowd fund a Hollywood movie? Basically everybody would get to see it for free and the people that fund the movie pay for it. Probably impossible. Why do movies have to be so incredible expensive?

[–]seka1980 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is what I want to know the answer too! Id say that i film like this with such a large fanbase could pull it off. So where do we go from here. Surely if a guy can raise 50k from potato salad, fanboys can get a film made!

[–]The_Cure_941 18 points19 points  (17 children)

I swear to the heavens if you created a Hellboy 3 Kickstarter it would be funded in less than 24 hours or bust.

[–]Scrotchticles 54 points55 points  (13 children)

A kick started for a massive Hollywood movie budget in 24 hours? Don't be a fucking dumbass.

[–]Gen_Hazard 1 point2 points  (8 children)

The thing is, the whole budget doesn't have to be raised, all that has to happen is that it is demonstrated to the big studios that there is a paying market for the movie.

Look at what happened with the movie Roosterteeth is working on, that raised only 2.5 mil (pretty small when you're talking movie budgets), but it demonstrated that there was a paying market for the movie and suddenly, lots of big studios swooped in, making offers.

[–]Scrotchticles 5 points6 points  (7 children)

We're talking about a third movie in a trilogy that hasn't performed particularly well in theaters and the studios have reserved judgment about a third. They know how it'll perform in theaters, they're concerned they can't get the money in DVD sales, kick starter doesn't prove shit for that.

[–]Gen_Hazard 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Well, I saying that there is a big group that'll see it in cinemas, and kickstarter would show that.

Hell, if the studios put a bit more into the advertising budget this time, I'm sure they'd see a lot more going, now that comic book movies are firmly on the public's radar.

[–]Scrotchticles 2 points3 points  (4 children)

You think the bellboys didn't make money because the marketing wasn't good enough? Hellboy just isn't as popular.

If there was a big enough group to see the movie, they would've seen the first and second in theaters and the studios would make a third because they would've made enough money to outweigh the risk.

It's really fucking simple.

[–]Gen_Hazard 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Guardian's of The Galaxy is a property that's magnitudes more unknown than Hellboy, but it looks like that's going to sell massively.

And don't say it's because Marvel is attached to it, because all Del Toro has to do is attach the tag line "From The Guy who brought you Pacific Rim" and that'd bump up ticket sales A TON.

It seems like this conversation is going nowhere however, so agree to disagree?

[–]Scrotchticles 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Guardians of the galaxy got the greenlight because ensemble movies are something the studios love to get behind because of the money to be made.

The avengers was fucking huge so it paved the way. Chris Pratt is very popular among the age group they are trying to sell gotg to. Merchandise sales for an ensemble movie are 5x the amount of a hellboy. Not to mention the possibility of solo movies and spin offs of a popular character. Say if rocket raccoon gets massively popular from it, he gets his own movie.

It really all comes down to the goodwill they made from the avengers and the rest of the series though, so this is a terrible example.

I'm sorry, I have massive respect for Guillermo Del Toro, but Hellboy is something I just don't care about and prefer other movies from him as a director.

Pan's Labyrinth is an amazing movie, and Pacific Rim regardless of feelings about the movie is a wonderful throwback Kaiju or Sea monster movie.

[–]Gen_Hazard 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I see your points, but I still have faith, guess I'm just an optimist.

Agree to disagree?

On another note, why aren't you a big fan of Hellboy?

[–]critch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Veronica Mars kickstarter was huge. How well did that do in theatres? Because the VM fanbase is about as big as Hellboy.

[–]JackXDark -1 points0 points  (3 children)

I wonder how many more Hellboy fans there are than Veronica Mars fans?

[–]101011011 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The difference being that Veronica Mars costed $6,000,000 to make, and each Hellboy movie took more than ten times that to make.

[–]aco620 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's probably a difficult comparison, based on what del Toro said about only making a (relatively) small profit. Looking over the Kickstarter, Veronica Mars had between 50-100,000 backers and made 5 million. And while I've never watched the show, I doubt they needed any CGI, just sets, actors, and that basic stuff.

Hellboy 1's budget was 66 mil and Hellboy 2's was 82 mil.

It would be very difficult to raise that amount. If we assume just for the sake of argument that with inflation and doing the movie people really want made, it will cost $100 million to make Hellboy 3, plus the cost of whatever incentive prizes they'll inevitably give out for backers (I would assume DVDs as the average gift), plus the risk of not making any additional profits outside of the backers as is often the problem with Kickstarter projects (and if it is we have to account millions more for an advertising budget), and the fact that your average donator is only going to give about $25 (again, all for the sake of argument), we're going to need hundreds of thousands of people to donate and much more than $100,000,000 donated.

[–]Scrotchticles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No clue on those fanbase sizes.

But 24 hours for a massive cgi budget from a kick starter is absolutely stupid.

[–]Gen_Hazard 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It doesn't even have to raise a big percentage of the budget.

I mean, look at what happened with the movie Roosterteeth is working on, that raised only 2.5 mil (pretty small when you're talking movie budgets), but it demonstrated that there was a paying market for the movie and suddenly, lots of big studios swooped in, making offers.

[–]bewtain 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Just give movie tickets for some amount of money given and voila, prepay movie ala carte.

[–]TeamVlad 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Reading Rainbow came to 6mil. Yeah, no way a kickstarter for Hellboy3 is reaching 85m

[–]AMeowingCat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a huge fan of your fantastic films and the comics that is frankly devastating but unfortunately that's the way of the industry sometimes. Hope you don't give up on it and we see it some day.

[–]Rainieri 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Have you shopped it to Marvel? It would be interesting to tie Hellboy to the MCU, specially considering how they are going into the mystical/supernatural part of the Marvel universe with phase 3.

[–]IAmAWhaleProstitute 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You know Hellboy is a comic book series right? It's published by a different company, Dark Horse, and it isn't created or owned by del Toro, it was created and owned by Mike Mignola. Comic book companies very rarely play well together. Hell, Marvel's movie owners don't even play well with each other which is why we can't get Spider-Man in an X-Men movie (although that's a whole different and lengthy discussion.) There's not a chance in hell one of the smaller companies like Dark Horse is going to let one of the big 2 (Marvel/DC) take control of one of their few big sellers for a major motion picture, even if Mignola was okay with it.

[–]Rainieri -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I know that Hellboy isn't Marvel but there is something called licensing. Right now Hellboy as an IP is doing nothing for them, they could sign a contract for a limited number of movies and then take back the franchise after that. You talk about it as if it's impossible for it to happen, it's not impossible just difficult.

[–]Razthespaz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You might think about crowdfunding? I know I'd drop a heft sum towards it.

[–]Trevastation 2 points3 points  (0 children)

May I ask what your opinion is on Kickstarter and other such platforms and if you'd use it for future projects or not?

[–]danielfischer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you would have great success with kick starter.

[–]Stopher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you explain how they don't have the second revenue stream anymore? I know people aren't buying DVDs like they used to but I had assumed that would be replaced by digital purchases.

[–]chancesarent 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How about shopping it around as a TV miniseries or something?

[–]EDoftheDEAD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I won the lottery there is quite a lot of things i should spend the money on but I'd just give it all to you to make Hellboy 3. Your version of Hellboy 3. It breaks my heart that you cannot do it and that the world will never see it. But here's to your next project and the next one after that.

[–]freshOJ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If the studios are worried about the lack of a dvd market, wouldnt a miniseries make sense? I feel like thats something netflix should be interested in.

[–]perado 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know you have received a lot of comments and mine is late and small, just like a young protagonist of one of your stories. Many of my friends and I small as we are just ask you to keep trying. It might not make a huge profit but it will be loved. Think of the show firefly for a moment. A classic, beloved by fans and has spanned a lifetime far greater than ever predicted. Hellboy 3 could be the final key to the puzzle of the series. Fans of the original have grown and sit hoping for a 3rd part and or finale. If you get this project finished I believe beyond a shadow of a doubt it will succeed in a surprising way that will move you emotionally and creatively. Good luck with Crimson Peak and your other en devours. Perado signing out

[–]Darklydreamingx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mr. Del Toro, speaking of Rubber Monsters. There are many of the original Toho suits that are currently in various states of decay. Any plans on rescuing/restoring some of them?

[–]mugg_fugger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

KICKSTART THAT MOTHERFUCKER!

[–]mickyfitz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sr. Del Toro, please do a Kickstarter for this movie.

[–]anonagent 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would buy the most expensive Blu-ray version! I've already bought the other ones on bd too (and hellboy 1 on dvd back in the day) :(

What if we were to start a Kickstarter? how much would we need to raise to get it funded?

[–]RetroCorn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sure you already know this, but don't give up! You have my support.

[–]Elmerblatch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

what about a deal with hbo or netflix?

[–]RolandTheJabberwocky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you considered working with netflix for it?

[–]just_zhis_guy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"but I spend all my money on rubber monsters." Best. Answer. Ever.

[–]animeman59 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wish I was a millionnaire just so I can finance Hellboy 3, and Mountains of Madness.

[–]art36 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry for the late question. Do you see this as an implicit cost of services like Netflix? It's great that services like it provide an enormous library of content for a very reasonable price, but do you think that is preventing projects like a Hellboy 3 from coming to fruition? It also seems that people are not going to the theater as much and that only a few films seen to garner a majority of the box office dollars.

[–]TheInfinityGauntlet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

DO A KICKSTARTER FOR IT PLS

[–]Jigsus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're not a mulltimillionare? I thought you'd be raking in the cash at your master level of your career.

[–]Fruitflyslikeabanana 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So, how about pre-sales of DVDs and digital downloads, to be delivered not until after the theatrical release (normal timing, in other words)? Crowdfunding that has a narrow function, to build back in that revenue safety net. Although, participation in the movie/visiting the set as fundraising offerings could go to offset that too.

[–]Huitzilopostlian 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is pretty stupid, they won't finance a movie that has proven to make money twice, but they back up incredible flops like all M. Night Shyamalan movies???

[–]Ex_Hedgehog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Guillermo if I ever win 100 million in the lottery, I swear on my unborn children to give 95 of it to you to help co-finance Hellboy III. I just want to see it that much. I actually have a moment at least once or twice a week where I get upset because that movie hasn't been made.

I enjoyed the first one greatly, but the second one did something no other blockbuster has ever done to me, it made me tear up. The scene where he recognizes himself in the plant monster and realizes he has to kill it to protect humans who will never accept him. It just gutted me like a fish. Thankyou for that!

[–]I-baLL[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I was a multimillionaire, I would finance it myself, but I spend all my money on rubber monsters.

Kickstarter?

[–]salesman134 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is there no way to change your mind or the studios mind? God I wanna see Hellboy 3.

[–]PEDANTlC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

kickstart it.

[–]KSI_SpacePeanut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why not see if Kickstarter would give any luck? I'd love to help make this a thing!

[–]LegitimateCrepe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How much would Kickstarter need to raise? I bet it could be done.

[–]MrStump -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm not even kidding, I'd totally put money down on a kickstarter for this. But I don't know if kickstarter can raise the roughly 100 million that would be needed.

[–]SpyroThBandicoot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Let the fans fund it.... Kickstart and Indiegogo would probably get you quite a big chunk of change.

[–]AxiusSerranus -1 points0 points  (0 children)

kickstarter to the rescue!

[–]chancesarent -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Kickstarter that shit Guillermo! $90 million in 30 days!

[–]BattleStag17 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

we have gone through basically every studio and asked for financing, and they are not interested

Kickstarter. Come on, you know it's worth a chance!

[–]optbin -1 points0 points  (0 children)

you should see if netflix or amazon studios would bank roll it.

[–]g1zz1e -1 points0 points  (0 children)

PLEASE do a Kickstarter! I would donate! Hellboy is my favorite movie and I would cry my eyes out with joy if we ever got closure on it.

[–]omegapisquared -1 points0 points  (0 children)

crowdsource it then. These comments indicate that people would happily pay

[–]Thepotatokingg -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Kickstarter

[–]CheezeCaek2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is where people get confused.

Everyone expects that just because you're a director, you must have just millions laying around and getting a studio to finance a project is just a formality and/or some union thing. Same applies to actors/actresses as well, as seen from the fiasco that took place when that one fellow from Scrubs decided to go to kickstarter to--...

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Have you ever considered Kickstarter to finance Hellboy 3?

[–]skeletormessiah -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I would give money for a kickstarter for this and I have never done so

[–]Phunk131 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Netflix?

[–]rdpotter -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I feel like this is begging for a kickstarter.

[–]photoxgenic -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

How much do you need? Seriously? I want EP credit if I find the money. I will need the script, or at least a first draft. Thanks!