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Revision as of 03:04, 23 May 2024
There are currently 4 filled queues. Admins, please consider promoting a prep to queue if you have the time!
This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page with a "hook" (an interesting note). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area and then promoted into the Queue. To update this page, it.
Count of DYK Hooks | ||
Section | # of Hooks | # Verified |
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April 13 | 1 | |
April 19 | 1 | |
April 24 | 1 | 1 |
April 25 | 2 | |
April 26 | 1 | |
April 29 | 1 | |
April 30 | 1 | |
May 2 | 2 | |
May 5 | 1 | |
May 7 | 2 | |
May 8 | 1 | 1 |
May 9 | 2 | |
May 10 | 4 | |
May 12 | 6 | 2 |
May 14 | 2 | |
May 16 | 3 | |
May 17 | 6 | 1 |
May 18 | 1 | 1 |
May 19 | 1 | |
May 20 | 7 | 4 |
May 21 | 9 | 3 |
May 22 | 6 | 3 |
May 23 | 4 | 2 |
May 24 | 6 | 1 |
May 25 | 3 | |
May 26 | 4 | 1 |
May 27 | 8 | 4 |
May 28 | 2 | 1 |
May 29 | 5 | 2 |
May 30 | 5 | 3 |
May 31 | 4 | 3 |
June 1 | 5 | 3 |
June 2 | 5 | 2 |
June 3 | 5 | 3 |
June 4 | 1 | |
June 5 | 8 | 5 |
June 6 | 5 | 1 |
June 7 | 11 | 5 |
June 8 | 10 | 4 |
June 9 | 16 | 5 |
June 10 | 5 | 3 |
June 11 | 4 | |
June 12 | 9 | 2 |
June 13 | 12 | 6 |
June 14 | 4 | 1 |
June 15 | 6 | 1 |
June 16 | 7 | 2 |
June 17 | 7 | |
June 18 | 6 | |
Total | 228 | 76 |
Last updated 17:23, 18 June 2024 UTC Current time is 18:44, 18 June 2024 UTC [refresh] |
Instructions for nominators
If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing. Further information can be found at the supplementary guidelines.
Frequently asked questions
How do I write an interesting hook?
Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area. Lastly, they are concise, and do not attempt to cover multiple facts or present information about the subject beyond what's needed to understand the hook.
When will my nomination be reviewed?
This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first, it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions below).
Where is my hook?
If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.
If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.
Instructions for reviewers
Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.
To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:
- Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
- Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
- The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
- To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:
If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a lineArticle length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.
:* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING :* -->
showing you where you should put the comment. - Save the page.
- After the nomination is approved, a bot will automatically list the nomination page on Template talk:Did you know/Approved.
If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.
Advanced procedures
How to promote an accepted hook
At-a-glance instructions on how to promote an approved hook to a prep area
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Handy copy sources:
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How to remove a rejected hook
- Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
- In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line
{{DYKsubpage
with{{subst:DYKsubpage
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with|passed=no
. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.
How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue
- Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
- Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
- View the edit history for that page
- Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
- Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
- Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
- If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.
How to move a nomination subpage to a new name
- Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.
Nominations
Older nominations
Articles created/expanded on April 13
Articles created/expanded on April 14
Articles created/expanded on April 15
Articles created/expanded on April 19
Georgi Romanov
- ... that Georgi Romanov had a shootout loss in the 2022–23 KHL season even though he was credited with playing zero minutes that season?
- Reviewed:
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Blaylockjam10 (talk) 23:50, 26 April 2024 (UTC).
- @Blaylockjam10: I studied the source and cannot find the hook. Can you lead me to it? Bruxton (talk) 02:56, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Bruxton: It’s under “Regular Season (Complete Stats)”. It looks like it may only be visible on a computer. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 11:33, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Looks like I need a premium membership to view. I will leave this to another reviewer. Bruxton (talk) 04:02, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- If "S TEAM LEAGUE GP GD GAA SV% GA SV SO W-L-T TOI" and "2022-23 Avtomobilist Yekaterinburg KHL 1 4 - - - - 0 0-0-1 0:00" means what I think it means, then a) you don't need a premium membership to view and b) I think the hook checks out with the source, depending on what "W-L-T" means, although I haven't yet looked at the article. I'm a bit worried about the phrases "submit stats/facts" and "edit profile" I found on the source - what makes it reliable?--Launchballer 11:57, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Launchballer I saw the same, which made me feel like it was a contributor site. Honestly I was just lost on that page. I think W is win L is loss and T is tie. It is a clever hook which drew me to the nomination, but then I found myself lost for a half hour clicking on pull down menus until I got to a paywall. @BeanieFan11: may be able to help. Bruxton (talk) 14:55, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not seeing the TOI part of the Elite Prospects link but based on how he played in the game that would make sense. NHL says that he was the goaltender for only the shootout portion in his only game, which would mean that he "officially" had zero minutes since the shootout isn't timed. (Also, I've come across Elite Prospects a number of times – they seem pretty reliable (don't think I've seen an incorrect stat, although I've only used them in writing ~10 hockey articles) and seem to have a staff – also cited ~20,000 times). I'd say it's good for approving as long as the article itself is fine. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:08, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Launchballer I saw the same, which made me feel like it was a contributor site. Honestly I was just lost on that page. I think W is win L is loss and T is tie. It is a clever hook which drew me to the nomination, but then I found myself lost for a half hour clicking on pull down menus until I got to a paywall. @BeanieFan11: may be able to help. Bruxton (talk) 14:55, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- If "S TEAM LEAGUE GP GD GAA SV% GA SV SO W-L-T TOI" and "2022-23 Avtomobilist Yekaterinburg KHL 1 4 - - - - 0 0-0-1 0:00" means what I think it means, then a) you don't need a premium membership to view and b) I think the hook checks out with the source, depending on what "W-L-T" means, although I haven't yet looked at the article. I'm a bit worried about the phrases "submit stats/facts" and "edit profile" I found on the source - what makes it reliable?--Launchballer 11:57, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Looks like I need a premium membership to view. I will leave this to another reviewer. Bruxton (talk) 04:02, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Bruxton: It’s under “Regular Season (Complete Stats)”. It looks like it may only be visible on a computer. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 11:33, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Blaylockjam10 I located the minutes played after being guided. Earwig determined that there is some minor WP:CLOP which needs to be addressed. Also probably not a DYK issue, but consider that we probably do not need a section for three words - it should be combined somewhere. Also the lead should introduce/summarize more of the article; right now it is a single sentence. The hook is interesting and the article is neutral with the correct inline citations. Created on April 19 nominated April 26 so the article is new enough and with 2344 the article is long enough. Bruxton (talk) 18:52, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Blaylockjam10: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 15:41, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Bruxton and Z1720: What do you think of the article’s quality now? Blaylockjam10 (talk) 22:30, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delay. Earwig is at 16.7% - clop was addressed. Personal life was expanded a bit more and the lead is now two sentences. Two sentences are close to a source, but I think we have addressed enough for a pass. Might make a good This might make a good quirky hook.(?) Bruxton (talk) 18:57, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Blaylockjam10 and Bruxton: As written this article would deserve {{prose}} and {{subsections}}, and single-sentence WP:PARAGRAPHs should be avoided - could this be remedied?--Launchballer 14:28, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Its not written in list format? I also don't see the need of having a bunch of subsections in this brief article and how one would appropriately do it? BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:55, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- It reads like one, see WP:PROSELINE.--Launchballer 15:04, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer and BeanieFan11: I agree that the article could be improved by combining sentences and I usually push for MOS changes, but many are not required by WP:DYKCRIT. Regarding sections, we sometimes feature single paragraph articles at DYK. I will go through it and also ping AirshipJungleman29 to see if they have an opinion. Bruxton (talk) 20:12, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Articles should be free from dispute tags. If an article deserves one, it can't run per WP:DYKTAG.--Launchballer 20:19, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- None of {{prose}}, {{subsections}} or {{too many sections}} are listed at Wikipedia:Template index/Disputes; I think Bruxton's alterations are sufficient. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 20:21, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Articles should be free from dispute tags. If an article deserves one, it can't run per WP:DYKTAG.--Launchballer 20:19, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer and BeanieFan11: I agree that the article could be improved by combining sentences and I usually push for MOS changes, but many are not required by WP:DYKCRIT. Regarding sections, we sometimes feature single paragraph articles at DYK. I will go through it and also ping AirshipJungleman29 to see if they have an opinion. Bruxton (talk) 20:12, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- It reads like one, see WP:PROSELINE.--Launchballer 15:04, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Its not written in list format? I also don't see the need of having a bunch of subsections in this brief article and how one would appropriately do it? BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:55, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Blaylockjam10 and Bruxton: As written this article would deserve {{prose}} and {{subsections}}, and single-sentence WP:PARAGRAPHs should be avoided - could this be remedied?--Launchballer 14:28, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
@Blaylockjam10, Bruxton, and AirshipJungleman29: I'm not quite happy with the sourcing on the hook and article here. A fair amount of this article is sourced to this non-independent source and this stat block, both of which feel very less-than-DUE. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 09:21, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- I think his statistics and how he performed with his different teams is absolutely worth being mentioned in the article – whether or not its sourced to NHL.com. If we remove everything sourced to those we'd end up with only random portions of text without an accurate summary of his career – which I don't think would make sense. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:34, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- If you're right that the secondary independent sources don't come near giving a cohesive picture of the subject, I would honestly question how they could confer notability. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 20:42, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- From a source analysis, sources 1 and 7 are non-independent, while sources 2–6 and 8 (5 is borderline) don't provide significant coverage. I've notability-tagged the article. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 20:46, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think there's a question of notability – he's an NHL goaltender and there's a decent amount of coverage, e.g. this – what I am saying is that by using solely news sources we wouldn't get nearly as good a picture of his career as we would by also using sources such as NHL.com, which help paint the fuller picture. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:35, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Fair enough, but I think that we can't reasonably call this article a pass unless we use as many of the SIRS as are helpful and then use the non-independent sources to fill in the gaps where we have to. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 22:20, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- What exactly do you mean by SIRS? Blaylockjam10 (talk) 20:28, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- secondary, independent, reliable sources :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 20:40, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- What exactly do you mean by SIRS? Blaylockjam10 (talk) 20:28, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Fair enough, but I think that we can't reasonably call this article a pass unless we use as many of the SIRS as are helpful and then use the non-independent sources to fill in the gaps where we have to. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 22:20, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think there's a question of notability – he's an NHL goaltender and there's a decent amount of coverage, e.g. this – what I am saying is that by using solely news sources we wouldn't get nearly as good a picture of his career as we would by also using sources such as NHL.com, which help paint the fuller picture. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:35, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
There is a problem with this - that many readers (myself included) will not have a clue as to what a 'shootout loss' is. Is there at least somewhere on WP which can prode a useful link for this? I couldn't find one. Surely a DYK should be at least widely comprehensible as it stands.Smerus (talk) 13:52, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Smerus: Glossary of hockey terms#shootout? BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:21, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: Thanks, that's a start, but what then is a 'shootout loss'?Smerus (talk) 16:48, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Losing the shootout? BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:51, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: Thanks, that's a start, but what then is a 'shootout loss'?Smerus (talk) 16:48, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 20
Articles created/expanded on April 25
DarkZero Esports
- ... that DarkZero won the 2022 Apex Legends Global Series championship?
- ALT1: ... that when their Apex Legends roster won the 2022 ALGS champipnship, DarkZero had not yet updated their website to include player bios? Source: https://www.kotaku.com.au/2022/07/all-australian-apex-legends-team-wins-apex-legends-global-series-championships/
- Reviewed: Bill McNulty
- Comment:
QPQ to come soon.QPQ is now done.
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 34 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Soulbust (talk) 12:55, 2 May 2024 (UTC).
- @Soulbust: Please provide a QPQ or this nomination may be rejected. Z1720 (talk) 15:44, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720: QPQ's done now. Soulbust (talk) 01:20, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Full review needed now that QPQ has been submitted. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:56, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720: QPQ's done now. Soulbust (talk) 01:20, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems |
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Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting: - n
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: I don't think either hooks are that interesting. Can you come up with something else? Perhaps you could mention that they won $500,000, I suppose. BorgQueen (talk) 20:15, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Soulbust: pinging. BorgQueen (talk) 20:20, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @BorgQueen: didn't see this notif for some reason. I personally don't find the financials/monetary aspect of these sorts of things interesting at all. I thought ALT1 was kinda conceptually funny, the fact that the team was still so freshly signed when they won the tournament that DZ hadn't even given them player bios on their website yet. Idk. I'll see what I can do, but will be adding the $500,000 win into the actual article as that info is currently not included. Soulbust (talk) 01:44, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Soulbust: pinging. BorgQueen (talk) 20:20, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
Per the above request. Z1720 (talk) 00:51, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- What about
- ALT2: ... that when DarkZero contracted Xynew, his teammates highlighted his "communication skills and game brain", which they deemed unusual for a controller player?
- (Hook) review still needed, I just suggested another hook. And maybe the hook could be shortened a bit. As a side note, I don't like the phrase "Covid-19 scare", as it's not clear to me that he tested positive – I read it as if there had been some sort of "panic" around him. (But maybe that's my non-native English misreading it.) –LordPeterII (talk) 13:24, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Used "scare" as it is what the Dot Esports source referred to it as. If I recall correctly, in my research of sourcing for the article, I came across an interview of the player where he mentions that he received multiple tests for it: one positive, one negative, and as a result of that had to miss playing. Soulbust (talk) 04:04, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 26
Hong Kong v Inter Miami
- ... that Lionel Messi has provoked geopolitical tensions across China, the United States, Argentina, Japan and Hong Kong due to his absence from a match?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: This is my first DYK nomination so please remind me if there is anything missing or should be improved. Thanks.
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.~~ J. Dann 15:04, 28 April 2024 (UTC).
- What a ride that article was. QPQ not needed. Earwig has a high score for copyvio detection, but that's entirely due to Messi's paragraph-long statement in the "Departure and Japan trip" section, which has an inline citation to the flagged source. Referencing is adequate and length/newness criteria fulfilled. Hook is definitely interesting and cited in source, not cited inline as exact phrasing but separately so. Good to go. Juxlos (talk) 10:13, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Cypp0847 and Juxlos: I have tagged the article for copyediting, as there are grammar-related issues throughout the article (tenses, for instance, are very often incorrect). This needs to be resolved before a DYK run. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 01:39, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Cypp0847: any progress on addressing the prose issues? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 19:28, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- FYI, I'm working on a copyedit and will try to have it posted later today or tomorrow. – Reidgreg (talk) 18:21, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, finished my copyedit. I removed the flag icons per MOS:FLAG and shortened one of the really long quotations. The infobox image, while taken from a video released under CC, contains elements which are definitely under copyright. I suggest taking a low-resolution version (100k pixels) and moving it to en.wiki with a fair use rationale, and using that. Please ping me (here or elsewhere) if you have any questions regarding my edits. – Reidgreg (talk) 05:27, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Juxlos and AirshipJungleman29: Reidgreg has indicated above that the copyright concerns have been resolved. Can you confirm this, and give this a green tick? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 00:32, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- To be clear, I addressed the copyediting concerns, not copyright. – Reidgreg (talk) 03:15, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- There is still uncited material, indicated by {{cn}} tags. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:09, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- this has been unimproved for a week, marking as rejected. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:45, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: Hi. Two marked {{cn}} tags are now resolved. Sorry for the delay as I have been extremely busy recently.~~ J. Dann 11:13, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- this has been unimproved for a week, marking as rejected. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:45, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Juxlos and AirshipJungleman29: Reidgreg has indicated above that the copyright concerns have been resolved. Can you confirm this, and give this a green tick? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 00:32, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Cypp0847 and Juxlos: I have tagged the article for copyediting, as there are grammar-related issues throughout the article (tenses, for instance, are very often incorrect). This needs to be resolved before a DYK run. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 01:39, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 28
Articles created/expanded on April 29
Meat diaper, Weight fraud
- ... that pre-moistened meat diapers in case-ready meat is a form of weight fraud?
- Source: Ryan, John M. (19 October 2015). Food Fraud. 3.4.7 Weight Fraud: Academic Press. p. 39. ISBN 978-0-12-803398-2.
- Reviewed:
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.GobsPint (talk) 00:55, 1 May 2024 (UTC).
- @GobsPint: - The weight fraud articles has been tagged by @Lovkal:. This needs to be resolved. --evrik (talk) 19:30, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Article all looks good to me: long enough, new enough, citations look good, and no plagiarism found. However, this hook doesn't sound quite grammatically correct to me. How about: ... that putting pre-moistened meat diapers in case-ready meat is a form of weight fraud? Luiysia (talk) 17:02, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Case-ready is jargon. Can it be replaced by pre-packaged? —Femke 🐦 (talk) 08:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- @GobsPint: how's this nomination going? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 02:38, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: It's ready to go. There's some concern about the {{Globalize}} tag that got added to weight fraud...I'm having trouble locating sources for a non-US section on weight fraud...though its evidently occuring.GobsPint (talk) 04:00, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- @GobsPint: how's this nomination going? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 02:38, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Case-ready is jargon. Can it be replaced by pre-packaged? —Femke 🐦 (talk) 08:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1a: ... that putting pre-moistened meat diapers in pre-packaged meat is a form of weight fraud?
- New reviewer needed to check the above hook (combining Luiysia's proposed rewrite with Femke's request as ALT1a) and to take a look at the Globalize tag in weight fraud to see whether it's an issue that needs to be addressed prior to approval. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:51, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- I also just realized that Luiysia's review refers to "article", singular, but there are two articles in this nomination, weight fraud and meat diaper. The new reviewer should check both articles rather than just one, unless Luiysia can confirm which article was reviewed. Thanks again. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:00, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing: - Meat diaper is fine, but the lead section of Weight fraud contains details not cited anywhere in the article, e.g. the sentence about self-checkout machines. Weight fraud also needs a citation for the first paragraph under "Food fraud".
- Neutral: - Globalise tag is present in Weight fraud.
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation |
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QPQ: None required. |
Overall: @GobsPint: Checking WP:DYKTAG only dispute tags are an issue, and the globalise template does not seem to fall into this category as described by WP:DT, instead coming under Wikipedia:Template_index/Cleanup#Neutrality_and_factual_accuracy, so I don't think that should block the nomination, although others may disagree. Earwig is not working for me right now but spot checking sources in articles showed no concerns. Only concern is with the uncited sections of Weight fraud. CSJJ104 (talk) 01:33, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I just rechecked WP:NPOV and see that the globalise tag is defininitely something which needs to be fixed. I have updated my review above. I did find some possible sources though, not sure if these are of any help in adding examples from outside the US, specifically Bangladesh and Norwegian fisheries. I will let you know of any others I may find. Again, sorry for the confusion in my review. CSJJ104 (talk) 01:57, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 30
List of roles and awards of Liza Soberano
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that Liza Soberano (pictured) appeared in a biographical episode of Maalaala Mo Kaya playing Miss Universe 2015 winner Pia Wurtzbach?
- Source: Liza plays Miss Universe 2015 Pia Wurtzbach in MMK. June 2, 2017. News.ABS-CBN.com.
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 36 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Pseud 14 (talk) 13:33, 1 May 2024 (UTC).
- I'd like to see a more internationally appealing hook than the current one because the hook to me isn't exactly impressive or eye-catching (it basically says that Soberano played a role, which is her job). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:08, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Alt1: ... that Filipino actress Liza Soberano had her Hollywood breakthrough in the 2024 comedy horror Lisa Frankenstein? [1] Pseud 14 (talk) 14:04, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- I guess that's okay too, but do you have any additional suggestions? Article itself seems long enough and new enough at least. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:08, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- The article is new enough, long enough, is free of close paraphrasing, and is adequately sources. ALT1 (the only hook under consideration) is verified in the source and mentioned in the article. A QPQ ahs been done. I'm still not 100% sure if ALT1 works out in terms of interest or if additional hooks are needed, so I'm passing judgement on ALT1 to a third-party editor. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:02, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- I would argue that there's nothing too unusual about a Filipino actress in Hollywood; the fact that she's not American is something, but foreign actors aren't exactly, well, foreign. (signed, an Angeleno, for what it's worth) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 02:40, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'd probably have passed ALT1, but after reading Liza Soberano and this, I can suggest ALT2: ... that Liza Soberano (pictured), an actress described by media publications as among the most beautiful Filipino actresses of her generation, played an unattractive exchange student in Just the Way You Are? - but you would need to add that bit from Liza Soberano.--Launchballer 09:29, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the suggestion Launchballer, I am unsure if adding the latter would work because it takes context out of the main article, instead of the nominated article for DYK, and honestly, I see little value of adding that bit on her roles and awards (as those publications are mostly listicles and generally don't count as awards). Having said that, Alt2 may be another iteration of Alt0 - which is a just another role she played. Thoughts? Pseud 14 (talk) 20:57, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'd probably have passed ALT1, but after reading Liza Soberano and this, I can suggest ALT2: ... that Liza Soberano (pictured), an actress described by media publications as among the most beautiful Filipino actresses of her generation, played an unattractive exchange student in Just the Way You Are? - but you would need to add that bit from Liza Soberano.--Launchballer 09:29, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- List is new, long, well sourced, neutral, and copyvio-free, as well as supported with a licensed image (which I doubt will make it to the Main Page). I concur with Narutolovehinata5 that none of the hooks is interesting; on ALT1, for instance, boldlinked article refers to the subject's acting credits, among others, yet only her so-called Hollywood breakthrough is singled out here, which makes her domestic roles inadequate in a way. This can be an interesting hook for a Lisa Frankenstein DYK, but certainly not for this one. Although QPQ has been given, another compelling hook is needed. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 07:44, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- I can suggest some variant of "that Liza Soberano started her career as a teenager".--Launchballer 08:24, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- If this is your alt proposal, then I don't think it's gonna fly, either; it's not unusual for most (if not all) grown actors to start out at a young age. Are there any more? Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 09:43, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Alt3: ... that Liza Soberano began her acting career playing third wheel characters? Pseud 14 (talk) 20:21, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Alt4: ... that after starring in the highest-grossing film of her career, Liza Soberano was named Box Office Queen? Pseud 14 (talk) 20:21, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Alt3 seems interesting, but could use some tweaks,
- If this is your alt proposal, then I don't think it's gonna fly, either; it's not unusual for most (if not all) grown actors to start out at a young age. Are there any more? Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 09:43, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- I can suggest some variant of "that Liza Soberano started her career as a teenager".--Launchballer 08:24, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Alt3a: ... that Liza Soberano's early acting roles include playing the third wheel in romance films? Source: [2]
- If this is OK with you, just add an end-of-sentence citations on it so I can redirect this to another reviewer. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 21:43, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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- ALT3a is short enough, sourced, and interesting. Let's roll.--Launchballer 23:11, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- I do apologize for the comment given that the nomination has already been approved, but I'm not very confident about ALT3a to be honest. If you're a Filipino (Soberano is a big name over here), ALT3a might be surprising especially for people who may not have followed her career as closely as super fans. However, to me at least, ALT3a is a bit reliant on knowing how big Soberano is, and an international reader might not get that context. Honestly I do think ALT2 was actually a better option. Yes it was a role hook, a kind of hook I have mixed opinions about, but the contrast does seem to catch attention and isn't as reliant on knowing about Philippine entertainment as much. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:09, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- The argument doesn't make sense at all. You're looking from the lens of someone who knows Soberano and not from the POV of an unfamiliar reader. If you're a Filipino (Soberano is a big name over here), ALT3a might be surprising especially for people who may not have followed her career - this is exactly what the hook is for–to peak the interest of non-familiar/somewhat familiar readers about the article. This is not to cater to someone who already knows her or to "superfans", which makes your justification completely ironic, since your comment is from the perspective of someone who knows the subject. Having said that, the article is about her "roles and awards" and I don't see the relevance of incorporating her "perceived beauty" in it, which makes Alt2 a no go for me. The hook is supposed to be about her acting career not Soberano in general (or whether she is considered desirable or her appearance in a particular role). It should be fact about something interesting that she had done as an actress and I trust that the non-Filipino reviewers who have weighed in seem to think the latter alternative works. Pseud 14 (talk) 12:36, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- I do apologize for the comment given that the nomination has already been approved, but I'm not very confident about ALT3a to be honest. If you're a Filipino (Soberano is a big name over here), ALT3a might be surprising especially for people who may not have followed her career as closely as super fans. However, to me at least, ALT3a is a bit reliant on knowing how big Soberano is, and an international reader might not get that context. Honestly I do think ALT2 was actually a better option. Yes it was a role hook, a kind of hook I have mixed opinions about, but the contrast does seem to catch attention and isn't as reliant on knowing about Philippine entertainment as much. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:09, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3a is short enough, sourced, and interesting. Let's roll.--Launchballer 23:11, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5 and Launchballer: To avoid lengthy discussions about which hooks are the most interesting, can someone indicate which hooks above are approved (ie pass the other criteria of DYK) and indicate their preference of interestingness? If there are multiple approved hooks, the promoter can decide which hook is the most interesting after reading the arguments above. If anyone has other hooks they would like to propose, they can do so below. Z1720 (talk) 00:39, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Right now the only approved hook is ALT3a. I thought ALT2 was a better option, but the nominator objected to it and in any case it's not supported in the article. The issue I had with ALT3a is that it's somewhat reliant on knowing that Soberano is currently known for doing leading roles but she started out doing third-wheel roles. That might be interesting to fans of her or those familiar with Filipino entertainment, but without that particular context the post isn't as obvious or as surprising. Having said that, despite the nom's comment above I still have reservations about ALT3a and would suggest not promoting or re-approving it without alternative wordings to ALT3a and/or additional hook proposals being proposed (this includes addressing the issue with ALT2). I'm not necessarily opposed to ALT3a's hook fact but I'm not a fan of it as currently worded. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:16, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 1
Articles created/expanded on May 2
Peewee Jarrett
- ... that Peewee Jarrett went from having no offers to play college football, a two-year span with no playing time, and being "set on quitting football", to signing into the National Football League?
- Source: Des Moines Register (all but NFL) Pensacola News Journal (for signing into NFL)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Zer0
BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:32, 9 May 2024 (UTC).
- QPQ remains missing BeanieFan11. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:24, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- QPQ done. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:54, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Full review needed now that QPQ has been submitted. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:54, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- QPQ done. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:54, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Long enough, new enough. Earwig's down, so AGFing, and QPQ done. The source says "Jarrett played seven games in an Ellsworth jersey before an injury shifted him to the bench." and Ellsworth is a college - am I missing something?--Launchballer 21:38, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Turns out I am missing something, a ping to @BeanieFan11:.--Launchballer 19:40, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I'm guessing you're referring to the part that reads
having no offers to play college football
? I think you're right – I had initially wrote that after readingTwo words stand out on Jarrett’s recruiting profile: No interest. The 6-foot-2, 215-pound high schooler held no Division I offers, no Division II offers, no Division III offers
– but I forgot that community colleges (like Ellsworth) can also offer athletic scholarships (meant by 'offers'). Maybe it could be changed tohaving no offers to play NCAA college football
? Or something else? BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:21, 11 June 2024 (UTC)- Fine by me, but you can't have adjacent links per WP:SEAOFBLUE.--Launchballer 23:27, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I'm guessing you're referring to the part that reads
- Turns out I am missing something, a ping to @BeanieFan11:.--Launchballer 19:40, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Long enough, new enough. Earwig's down, so AGFing, and QPQ done. The source says "Jarrett played seven games in an Ellsworth jersey before an injury shifted him to the bench." and Ellsworth is a college - am I missing something?--Launchballer 21:38, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Bar Kokhba refuge caves
- ... that towards the end of the Bar Kokhba revolt, Jewish families escaping the Roman army sought shelter in refuge caves in the Judaean Desert?
- Source: Eshel, Hanan; Zissu, Boaz (2019). "The Refuge Caves". The Bar Kokhba Revolt: The Archaeological Evidence. Jerusalem: Yad Izhak Ben-Zvi. pp. 62–64. ISBN 978-965-217-429-1
- ALT1: ... that over 30 refuge caves, where Jewish families sought shelter from the Roman army during the Bar Kokhba revolt, were discovered in the Judaean Desert? Source: Eshel, Hanan; Zissu, Boaz (2019). "The Refuge Caves". The Bar Kokhba Revolt: The Archaeological Evidence. Jerusalem: Yad Izhak Ben-Zvi. pp. 62–64. ISBN 978-965-217-429-1
- Reviewed:
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Mariamnei (talk) 08:03, 5 May 2024 (UTC).
- Mariamnei you have five nominations so you will need to provide a WP:QPQ. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:24, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- AirshipJungleman29, I have done it, thanks. Mariamnei (talk) 11:59, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- Full review needed now that QPQ has been submitted. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:02, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 4
Articles created/expanded on May 5
Adnan al-Bursh
... that Palestinian doctor Adnan al-Bursh, who recently died in Israeli prison, was head of orthopedics at the Gaza Strip's largest medical facility, Al-Shifa Hospital?
Makeandtoss (talk) 13:24, 9 May 2024 (UTC).
- @Makeandtoss Is the part about dying in an Israeli prison really necessary? Also, hooks are not supposed to change, so I would recommend changing recently to something else. Also, way too much focus on his death. (In the article) 48JCL (talk) 22:26, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Makeandtoss The fact that Adnan al-Bursh was head of orthopedics in a hospital is not "likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vegan416 (talk • contribs) 20:15, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Honestly, it is difficult to pass this article for DYK. I made an attempt by adding ALT hook. Any user can try to review this DYK again as new hook is proposed. Mehedi Abedin (talk) 12:51, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 6
Articles created/expanded on May 7
Toro de fuego
- ... that toros de fuego, bulls of fire, are used in festivals instead of real bulls?
- Alt 1a ... that bulls of fire are used in festivals instead of real bulls?
- Alt2 ... that while the people of San Sebastián use flaming bovine puppets during their great week festival, the puppets are not "great bulls of fire"?"
- Source: "Playing with Fire". Running of the Bulls. 2018-03-27. Retrieved 2020-11-29.
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 114 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.--evrik (talk) 04:17, 7 May 2024 (UTC).
- Fixed. --evrik (talk) 13:54, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: - I think this may be a candidate for Wikipedia:April Fools' Main Page/Did you know. What do you think? --evrik (talk) 17:03, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
evrik, I do not have full access to El Pais. Can you recheck the second paragraph of Background, the one on San Sebastián, to make sure that text is supported? Either way, I suggest adding more details from El Pais. The detail will help the article and provide good hooks. Sparks flying 1.5m from 30 running metal fire bulls; that's a hook. CMD (talk) 14:57, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- CMD, I put the text here. The point may be moot as that section just got reorganized when I fixed the links. "Sparks flying 1.5 meters (4 ft 11 in) from 30 running metal fire bulls" - I'm thinking about it. --evrik (talk) 16:17, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- CMD, where does your review stand? FYI, evrik is a few days into a 30-day block, so I hope there aren't significant problems. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:01, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 8
Florida Hospital Oceanside
- ... that Florida Hospital Oceanside in Ormond Beach, Florida was demolished after being damaged by Hurricane Irma?
- ALT1: ... that an administrator of Florida Hospital Oceanside was arrested by the DEA for prescription drug fraud? Source: https://www.news-journalonline.com/story/lifestyle/health-fitness/2017/02/08/florida-hospital-oceanside-administrator-charged-in-prescription-drug-fraud/22515051007/
- Reviewed:
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Catfurball (talk) 15:57, 8 May 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: * Ormond Beach should probably be wikilinked.
- Source [3] says the renaming happened on May 15, 1998.
- The Oct 1, 2000 renaming to Florida Hospital Oceanside does not appear in any of the three sources listed.[2][6][7] But it does appear in source [1]. The sentence "On October 1, 2000, Florida Hospital officially to over the management of Memorial Hospital Peninsula" lacks a verb and it's not clear what "Florida Hospital" refers to in this sentence. Did you mean Adventist Health System?
- "To make the rehabilitation rooms on the second and third floors private." Dangling clause.
- "In early March 2018, the rehabilitation facility at Florida Hospital Oceanside moved to Florida Hospital Memorial Medical Center. This left the hospital with 17 acute-care beds." - This seems to misunderstand the source. Prior to Irma, there were already only 17 beds, then Irma damaged Oceanside to the point of closing and moving service to Memorial Medical Center. This source is also about the whole hospital, not just the rehabilitation facility.
- "From the site AdventHealth was keeping 2.44 acres for future use by Florida State Road A1A." The article says "future endeavors", not for use by State Road A1A. That's a completely separate point.
Overall, I think the writer could do with some more careful reading of the sources to verify all claims in the article. I'm happy to pass it if the above points are addressed. I think HOOK1 should be used, considering the alleged crime did not lead to a conviction. Axem Titanium (talk) 17:51, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
@Axem Titanium: Ormond Beach is linked in the articles introduction. And I have made improvements that you suggested to the article. Catfurball (talk) 18:23, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I meant it should be linked in the hook itself. Axem Titanium (talk) 18:39, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Catfurball: Were you done with your edits to the article? I still see some factual errors/misreading of sources that I identified above. Axem Titanium (talk) 15:15, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
@Axem Titanium: Since you do not like my work I with draw my nomination. Catfurball (talk) 15:32, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not asking you to withdraw the nomination; I'm asking you to address the issues I identified above, some of which you implemented and some of which you did not. The clause is still dangling. It's the whole hospital that closed, not just the rehabilitation facility. The 2.44 acres are not going to be used by Road A1A. These are specific and easily addressable issues. Axem Titanium (talk) 15:55, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
@Axem Titanium: Know are you happy with my changes. Catfurball (talk) 19:02, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for making those fixes. I grouped some sentences together to address SounderBruce's proseline concerns. Passing. Axem Titanium (talk) 19:49, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Alessandro57, Do you have any concerns regarding any of the DYK criteria, if so please be specific. The quoted passages are from works that were published almost a hundred years ago, they are referenced, and the translators mentioned. Is there anything else to address?
- @DYK admins: What happens now? Should someone else take over this review? Please advise. el.ziade (talkallam) 13:50, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Alessandro57 can you clarify what kind of copyediting you're looking for. I'm guessing you're looking for a level of prose quality beyond what is requried by WP:DYKCRIT. In specific, see WP:DYKNOT, where it says
Articles ... do not have to be of very high quality
. If it fails some specific criteria, that needs to get fixed. If it's just that the prose could be better, that's not something to hold up an approval. RoySmith (talk) 14:05, 21 May 2024 (UTC) - I would also add that, generally, being the reviewer doesn't disqualify you from copyediting. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 18:34, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- OK @RoySmith, Theleekycauldron, and Elias Ziade:, I tried to do some copyediting myself. The article now is good to go. Alex2006 (talk) 10:10, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks @RoySmith:, @Theleekycauldron: for your quick intervention and advice. el.ziade (talkallam) 13:26, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- OK @RoySmith, Theleekycauldron, and Elias Ziade:, I tried to do some copyediting myself. The article now is good to go. Alex2006 (talk) 10:10, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- Alessandro57 can you clarify what kind of copyediting you're looking for. I'm guessing you're looking for a level of prose quality beyond what is requried by WP:DYKCRIT. In specific, see WP:DYKNOT, where it says
- @DYK admins: What happens now? Should someone else take over this review? Please advise. el.ziade (talkallam) 13:50, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Alessandro57, Do you have any concerns regarding any of the DYK criteria, if so please be specific. The quoted passages are from works that were published almost a hundred years ago, they are referenced, and the translators mentioned. Is there anything else to address?
Articles created/expanded on May 9
AdventHealth North Pinellas
- ... that AdventHealth does not own AdventHealth North Pinellas, instead they lease it from the city of Tarpon Springs?
- ALT1: ...that there was a lawsuit against Tarpon Springs over fees that were due from the Tarpon Springs Hospital Foundation which leases Helen Ellis Memorial Hospital? Source: https://tampabay.com/archive/1995/10/21/hospital-s-foundation-goes-to-court-over-fees-avoidning-eviction/
- Reviewed:
Catfurball (talk) 23:59, 9 May 2024 (UTC).
- A new hook is needed here as the current one doesn't seem to meet WP:DYKINT. It does not appear to be "hooky", or a hook that would attract attention from non-specialist audiences. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:37, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: I have added a seconded hook. Catfurball (talk) 18:56, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not a fan of ALT1 either, but that's the least of my problems with this page, Catfurball. This article, as it is now, is the example of WP:PROSELINE that should be preserved to tell people what proseline is and how to avoid it. Every single paragraph or clause beyond the lead begins with a date—59 of them in all—making for an awfully repetitive read. You can write articles on topics like this that are not proselines; I've done TV stations (WEDU, WFTV, WTVJ just in Florida alone) that have similar long-time-series information. I'd love to assist in giving you pointers as to how to set up more natural section heading dividers and how to vary your sentence structure. Right now, I would not want Main Page viewers to see this article in its present structure. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 00:50, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: Since you do not like my work I withdraw my nomination. Catfurball (talk) 15:34, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Catfurball: It is not that I "do not like your work"; in fact, you've put a lot of effort in here. It is that there is a major issue with the way the page is written. You have the referencing and content, but the article prose needs to be reorganized. If you would like advice, my talk page and email are always open, and I would be open to assisting as well. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 19:26, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: I have done some reorganization of the article. Know for the hook that is problemly the only one that I can think of at this time, unless if you think that one of the notable patients can be used as a hook. Catfurball (talk) 20:49, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Catfurball: It is not that I "do not like your work"; in fact, you've put a lot of effort in here. It is that there is a major issue with the way the page is written. You have the referencing and content, but the article prose needs to be reorganized. If you would like advice, my talk page and email are always open, and I would be open to assisting as well. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 19:26, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: Since you do not like my work I withdraw my nomination. Catfurball (talk) 15:34, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 10
Han Bong-zin
- ... that footballer Han Bong-zin was alleged to be better than Pelé?
- Source: Sunday Mirror ("The outstanding North Korean footballer is ... Han Bong Jin [a variation of Han Bong-zin]. Pyongyang (The Capital) Radio describes the winger modestly: 'A footballer who overshadows the world-renowned Brazilian player [Pelé]'") / Grimsby Evening Telegraph ("Han Bong Zin is the man described by Pyongyang Radio as 'better than Pele'")
- ALT1: ... that footballer Han Bong-zin was alleged to "overshadow" Pelé? Source: same
- ALT2: ... that the North Korean government claimed footballer Han Bong-zin was better than Pelé? Source: same
- ALT3: ... that the North Korean state-run media claimed footballer Han Bong-zin was better than Pelé? Source: same
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Caitlyn Wurzburger
- Comment: Regarding ALT2/ALT3: the sources say that it was "Pyongyang Radio". That sounds like a government/state-run program, especially since, if I remember right, the only media in North Korea is state-owned. Let me know about your thoughts on whether it is correct to describe it as the NK government/state making the claims.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:13, 17 May 2024 (UTC).
Review by Brachy08
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- I highly doubt his notability based off a previous AfD discussion, but since the article expanded a lot, I think it is worth a shot. Unfortunately the source you gave is unreliable as it is a tabloid. And not that interested in "X is going to take over Y" kinds of facts. Otherwise, DYK would be filled with statements like "Did you know that Disney+ is going to take over Netflix as the top streaming service"? Brachy08 (Talk) 04:44, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Brachy0008: The prior AFD was very poor as none of the editors looked at Newspapers.com or discussed the fact that he's one of seven players whose life story is chronicled in the film The Game of Their Lives (SIGCOV) or that failing all else, this clearly passes WP:NBASIC (but features like Han Bong Jin-he dribbles like Garrincha, shoots like Charlton are clearly SIGCOV for GNG).
As for the sources itself, being a tabloid alone is not enough to disqualify a source as far as I'm aware. Neither does the Grimsby Evening Telegraph even appear to be a tabloid(?).
Regarding the hook, I still think it interesting as an extremely obscure player being allegedly better than possibly the greatest ever (this isn't "X is going to overtake"); that its a nation's government making the claim only adds more interest (and North Korea another added twist).
Should I request another reviewer to analyze? BeanieFan11 (talk) 13:04, 17 May 2024 (UTC) - You can if you like. However, even if the player is very obscure, and yeah he is, still doesn’t really spark any interest. Brachy08 (Talk) 13:09, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Brachy0008: Thought of another one, in case the others don't work – what about:
- @Brachy0008: The prior AFD was very poor as none of the editors looked at Newspapers.com or discussed the fact that he's one of seven players whose life story is chronicled in the film The Game of Their Lives (SIGCOV) or that failing all else, this clearly passes WP:NBASIC (but features like Han Bong Jin-he dribbles like Garrincha, shoots like Charlton are clearly SIGCOV for GNG).
- Alt4 ... that footballer Han Bong-zin trained in the military every day for four years in preparation for the FIFA World Cup? BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:10, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- ALT4 can pass. Seems a lot more interesting than the rest. Also, source? Brachy08 (Talk) 00:04, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- My unsolicited comment. I think the article meets the DYK criteria, and the Alt 3, or something like that is the most interesting. --evrik (talk) 15:44, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Brachy0008: See Liverpool Daily Post:
For the last four years of his football career Han Bong Jin — like the rest of his colleagues -- has been preparing for the 1966 World Cup. When the North Koreans reorganised their football organisation he was one of those taken from his club and added to a squad of 40 players to be employed by the Army ... who trained for football twice a day.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:08, 18 May 2024 (UTC)- @BeanieFan11: unfortunately, that is a tabloid, and thus unreliable. Brachy08 (Talk) 00:18, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Brachy0008: How'd you determine that? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:16, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: searching it up. tabloids are usually unreliable bc they put stuff in a sensationalist light. Brachy08 (Talk) 00:18, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Brachy0008: I meant, how did you determine that the Liverpool Daily Post is an unreliable tabloid? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:19, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: tabloids are usually unreliable on wikipedia standards. Brachy08 (Talk) 00:20, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm aware of that, but I'm not seeing that this paper specifically was a tabloid? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:21, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- See Liverpool Daily Post. The infobox says that it is a tabloid. Brachy08 (Talk) 00:25, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- That links to the newspaper size tabloid, not necessarily that they engaged in tabloid journalism (though some do both). It doesn't seem the paper is at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources or has even been discussed at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. I'll request another opinion on this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:29, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- See Liverpool Daily Post. The infobox says that it is a tabloid. Brachy08 (Talk) 00:25, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm aware of that, but I'm not seeing that this paper specifically was a tabloid? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:21, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: tabloids are usually unreliable on wikipedia standards. Brachy08 (Talk) 00:20, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Brachy0008: I meant, how did you determine that the Liverpool Daily Post is an unreliable tabloid? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:19, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: searching it up. tabloids are usually unreliable bc they put stuff in a sensationalist light. Brachy08 (Talk) 00:18, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Brachy0008: How'd you determine that? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:16, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: unfortunately, that is a tabloid, and thus unreliable. Brachy08 (Talk) 00:18, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Brachy0008: See Liverpool Daily Post:
- Alt4 ... that footballer Han Bong-zin trained in the military every day for four years in preparation for the FIFA World Cup? BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:10, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Without speaking to the specific reliability and usage of Liverpool Daily Post in this instance, BeanieFan11 is correct. "Tabloid" has two different meanings, of which the infobox usage is very different than the secondary use by Brachy0008, which is shorthand for tabloid journalism, which in turn used to refer to specific tabloids with red mastheads, known as red tops. Our article on tabloid journalism makes this distinction a bit more clear: "Not all newspapers associated with tabloid journalism are tabloid size, and not all tabloid-size newspapers engage in tabloid journalism." Viriditas (talk) 00:45, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- My college newspaper was printed tabloid style, but we were not a "tabloid." As long as the source does not run afoul of Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources, it should be okay. --evrik (talk) 02:04, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Brachy0008: can you address the responses? Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 19:41, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
New reviewer needed unless Brachy0008 returns. Z1720 (talk) 00:50, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
hi. sorry for the inactivity... nom would need a second opinion tho, so best get a new reviewer. thx! Brachy08 (Talk) 01:50, 10 June 2024 (UTC)- since got now new reviewer and i have more free time now (yay), i may complete the review... will do a final check on the source before completing it.
- done review! brachy08 (chat here lol) 08:23, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- since got now new reviewer and i have more free time now (yay), i may complete the review... will do a final check on the source before completing it.
Mary Ann Wells
... that Mary Ann Wells (pictured), considered the most influential ballet teacher of the Pacific Northwest, mentored numerous talented dancers, including Gerald Arpino, who went on to co-found the Joffrey Ballet?Source: Doris, Hering (February 2000). "Wells, Mary Ann". American National Biography. New York: Oxford University Press. doi:10.1093/anb/9780198606697.article.1802274. (subscription required) (can be freely accessed via the WP Library), DoWW (2007). Commire, Anne; Klezmer, Deborah (eds.). Dictionary of Women Worldwide: 25,000 Women Through the Ages. Vol. 2. Yorkin Publications. p. 1980. Retrieved May 11, 2024.- ALT1:
... that Mary Ann Wells (pictured), a dance teacher who believed in cultivating her students' passion for dance, influenced the style of the Joffrey Ballet, which dedicated a season to her memory after her death?Source: Doris 2000 - ALT2:
... that Mary Ann Wells (pictured), despite her association with the "I AM" movement, focused on nurturing her students' individual talents and passions, rather than enforcing rigid standards?Source: Doris 2000 - Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Game board
- Comment:
QPQ will be done promptly.Done.
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X (talk) 23:39, 15 May 2024 (UTC).
- The article is long enough, new enough, and neutral with all reliable sources. I assume good faith on the subscription reference. A QPQ has been completed and the image is fine. The promoter can choose the hook. SL93 (talk) 17:14, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
pulled per discussion at ERRORS and previous issues. New hook needed, thanks :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 18:59, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Party of Revolutionary Communism, Vladimir Zitta, Grigorii Nikolaevich Maksimov, Evgenia Semenovskaya, Vladimir Bezel
- ... that in 1919 Vladimir Zitta, Evgenia Semenovskaya and G. N. Maksimov were expelled from the Party of Revolutionary Communism for having advocated unity with other populist sectors?
- Source: Память, Issue 3. Khronika Press, 1980. p. 384
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Theo Benedet, Template:Did you know nominations/Herschel the sea lion, Template:Did you know nominations/Kenji Tanigaki (2 articles), Template:Did you know nominations/Vasantha Krishna Prasad
Soman (talk) 21:37, 15 May 2024 (UTC).
- Comment ok to add Vladimir Bezel as a fifth article for this nom? (moved to mainspace today). The ALT1 hook would be "... that in 1919 Vladimir Zitta, Evgenia Semenovskaya, Vladimir Bezel and G. N. Maksimov were expelled from the Party of Revolutionary Communism for having advocated unity with other populist sectors?" One more QPQ would be needed. --Soman (talk) 15:00, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- I added in Vladimir Bezel into the template and added a 5th article QPQ. --Soman (talk) 14:01, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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Guardian Cap
- ... that Guardian Caps (pictured) have made players feel like bobbleheads?
- Reviewed: Amen break
- Comment: QPQ to come. Open to ALTs and open to running without image, although I think this is a good article for the image slot on DYK
Soulbust (talk) 16:41, 19 May 2024 (UTC).
- @Soulbust: Please complete a QPQ and link to it above. Thanks, Z1720 (talk) 02:15, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: The provided source only gives one player's opinion, but the article cites a second opinion, allowing for "players". If the promoting admin feels that support for this is weak, there's the possibility of using something about the caps being required for use in practice despite third-party research not showing their efficacy. If we do a bobblehead hook, I strongly recommend using the image, as it underscores the point made by the players. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:44, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Soulbust and Crisco 1492: "Bobblehead" would require quotes anyway, but let's hear a 'something about the caps being required for use in practice despite third-party research not showing their efficacy' hook.--Launchballer 07:53, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- I was thinking something like ALT1 ... that the NFL has required players in most positions to wear Guardian Caps (pictured) during training even though third-party research has questioned their effectiveness? But this is Soulbust's party, so I defer to them. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:40, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Crisco 1492: "Most positions" wouldn't really be appropriate. This is 7 of the 11 players on defense (cornerbacks and safeties not required based on article) and 6 of the 11 on offensive (quarterbacks, wide receivers, and running backs not required apparently). However, I recalled hearing that these were rolled out more since 2022. Based on this source, "the only positions not required to wear the caps are kickers, punters, quarterbacks, wide receivers and defensive backs." – Still not enough to say "most" in my opinion. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:13, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- "Most positions" is based on the article: four in 2022, two in 2023, and two in 2024 (eight position groups) versus three not mandated. However, I'll be the first to admit that I have very little knowledge of or interest in football, hence my deferral to Soulbust. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:22, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- I would describe 'most' as 'more than half', so even six out of 11 would count. I'd include an 'as of' in the hook, but this should check out, although I'd like to hear from Soulbust before I promote this.--Launchballer 13:18, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- It just feels disingenuous to state most since at least a quarter of the players on the field at any given time wouldn't be required. The "three groups" are actually broken down as well, so it's actually four groups (safeties and cornerbacks were lumped in as defensive backs). Perhaps if there's a caveat about it being required of the players who make the most contact... but that gets too wordy. Where's the source on questioning the effectiveness? We'd want sourcing on that to consider including it given the stigma that goes along with questioning the usefulness of safety equipment in regards to the NFL. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:27, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- I would describe 'most' as 'more than half', so even six out of 11 would count. I'd include an 'as of' in the hook, but this should check out, although I'd like to hear from Soulbust before I promote this.--Launchballer 13:18, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Ceasefire proposal for Israel–Hamas war (May 5)
- ... that celebrations happened in the Gaza Strip after Hamas accepted an Egyptian-Qatari ceasefire proposal?
- ALT1: ... that Hamas accepted an Egyptian-Qatari ceasefire proposal under which it would agree not to rebuild its military arsenal? Source: [6]
- ALT2: ... that CIA Director William J. Burns played a key role in drafting an Egyptian-Qatari ceasefire proposal that Hamas accepted? Source: [7] [8]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Julius Welschof
VR (Please ping on reply) 03:55, 18 May 2024 (UTC).
- The notability of the article is questionable. If the proposal is not implemented and is replaced by another proposal (which seems to be the case at the moment) do you think anyone will be remotely interested in this article a year from now? Vegan416 (talk) 14:04, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- I do think it’s a significant proposal that will continue to be mentioned years from now. For example, consider the Palestinian proposal at Camp David, which was eventually replaced by an Israeli proposal. Initial media coverage was mainly focused on the Israeli proposal, but as the years passed by academic literature began to pick up on the Palestinian proposal and we can see evidence of WP:SIGCOV in 2003, 2006, 2007, 2012, 2017 etc.VR (Please ping on reply) 04:13, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Issue with all 3 hooks: lack sufficient clarity that Israel did not agree (both before and after). Do you have an alternative suggestion? FortunateSons (talk) 06:54, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
FortunateSons here is another suggestion:
- ALT3: ... on May 31, Joe Biden presented a three-phase ceasefire proposal that was welcomed by Hamas but opposed by some members of the Israeli cabinet? Source: [9][10]
VR (Please ping on reply) 16:07, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Vice regent This is definitely better, but I would like an uninvolved person to evaluate it. Thank you :) FortunateSons (talk) 16:13, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Issue with hook 2 (and maybe hook 3 as well): The claim may be factually incorrect or misleading. Another reliable source claims that Hamas is not ready to give up its weapons: ""Hamas will not surrender its guns or sign a proposal that asks for that,” Arab mediators said Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar told them in a brief message they received Thursday, as two top U.S. officials, including Central Intelligence Agency Director William Burns, hold talks in the region aimed at jump-starting long-stalled negotiations." Vegan416 (talk) 18:38, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT4: ...that a ceasefire proposal to the Israel-Hamas war presented by Joe Biden on May 31 was nearly identical to the one presented by Egypt and Qatar on May 5?Source: [11]
Alt4 should be interesting and uncontroversial.VR (Please ping on reply) 05:24, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
Grace A. Johnson
- ... that Grace A. Johnson's traditional view that women belonged at home changed after attending a pro-suffrage meeting in Cambridge, England, in 1907? Source: Berenson, Barbara F. (August 27, 2020). "Johnson, Grace Allen". American National Biography. New York: Oxford University Press. doi:10.1093/anb/9780198606697.013.369350. (subscription required) (can be freely accessed via Wikipedia Library), Biographical Sketch of Grace A. Johnson
- ALT0a: ... that Grace A. Johnson initially held the traditional view that women belonged at home, but her perspective shifted after attending a pro-suffrage meeting in Cambridge, England in 1907? Source: Same as above
- ALT0b: ... that Grace A. Johnson initially held the traditional view that women belonged at home, but her perspective shifted after attending a pro-suffrage meeting in England in 1907? Source: same as above
- ALT1: ... that Grace A. Johnson initially opposed American entry into World War I, but eventually supported the war effort after the United States declared war in 1917? Source: [1]
- ALT1a: ... that after initially opposing the United States' entry into World War I, Grace A. Johnson eventually came to support the war effort when the US declared the war in 1917? Source: same as above
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/WJHP-TV
X (talk) 22:15, 15 May 2024 (UTC).
References
General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems: - Article has... eight sections in the running text alone. It should be consolidated.
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral: - n
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
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Overall: Issue with sections is holding this up. Also, "traditional" is not supported by the source. Culture of Domesticity and separate spheres go into further detail, but in brief the "traditionality" of domesticity is not clear-cut, as it has varied between cultures and time periods; as such, it may be a weasel word in this instance. Third, it may be worth mentioning that she became a suffragist, rather than just that she changed her mind (for example, ... that the suffragist Grace A. Johnson initially believed that women belong at home?) — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:03, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
Interstate 85 in North Carolina
- ... that I-85 switches directions from milemarker 96 to 102 in Davidson County?
- Source: [1]
- Reviewed:
- Comment: You're gonna have to zoom at least 75% into the map image to see the red line, which is I-85.
NoobThreePointOh (talk) 17:33, 12 May 2024 (UTC).
- It's not immediately obvious what you're talking about, and you should make it clear where this "Davidson County" place is for people who won't realize it's in North Carolina, USA. So ...
- ALT1: ... that for six miles (9.6 km) in Davidson County, North Carolina, traffic on I-85 drives on the left?
- I also wonder if you were able to find any explanation for this in your research. I think it's been noted elsewhere as the only significant place in the US with LHT. And maybe we should put that in the intro. Daniel Case (talk) 05:17, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hmmm... I suppose that works. I'm just a little unsure about what hook exactly to choose. Yeah, I'll probably place it in the intro. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 09:12, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
References
Vinland Saga (TV series)
- ... that the 3D CGI animation of Vinland Saga was inspired by the work of Shūhei Yabuta in Attack on Titan and Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress?
- Source: [1]
- ALT1: ... that the Vinland Saga anime series took liberties from the manga to properly show Thorfinn's transformation into a Viking as new scenes were added? Source: [2]
- ALT2: ... that for the second season of Vinland Saga there was a proper attempt to humanize the slave Thorfinn in contrast to the benevolent owner Ketil who becomes more violent the more he appears? Source: [3]
- Reviewed:
Tintor2 (talk) 16:04, 12 May 2024 (UTC).
- I found multiple problems with the article, and fixed some prose, neutrality issues and a copyvio (long quote violating fair use). At this point I've edited the article too much to review it. I just want to caution the DYK reviewer to not rely on the quick-pass at GAN. – Reidgreg (talk) 14:00, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
@Reidgreg: Thanks for the help and advice. I'll try doing the same with other articles.Tintor2 (talk) 18:34, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Creators Interviews Series #04 – Shūhei Yabuta". Prezzee. Archived from the original on January 13, 2021. Retrieved June 17, 2023.
- ^ Cardine, Kyle (August 9, 2022). "INTERVIEW: VINLAND SAGA Creator, Staff on Returning to the Viking Epic for Season 2". Crunchyroll. Archived from the original on October 31, 2022. Retrieved June 17, 2023.
- ^ Campbell, Neysha (June 16, 2023). "The Brilliant Minds Behind VINLAND SAGA Season 2". Anime News Network. Archived from the original on 2023-06-16. Retrieved June 17, 2023.
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Haikyu!! The Dumpster Battle
- ... that Haikyu!! The Dumpster Battle is the second highest-grossing Japanese film of 2024 so far, grossing over ¥10 billion in 75 days?
- Reviewed:
NinetyNineDragon (talk) 16:22, 16 May 2024 (UTC).
- The article is long enough, new enough, and neutral. The only issues that I see are that "The film grossed over ¥10 billion, making it the second highest-grossing Japanese film of 2024 so far." needs a citation, the first paragraph needs to be cited, and that IMDb is not considered to be a reliable source for the cast. SL93 (talk) 06:49, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- In 2024, only two films grossed over ¥10 billion in Japan. To my surprise the best source I can find is this. NinetyNineDragon (talk) 15:15, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- In addition, that is a promotional hook. It tells people "go and watch this film or else you miss out on something". Schwede66 08:31, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- I believe simply the hook stating the film's commercial success does not mean it is promotional. NinetyNineDragon (talk) 15:15, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- @NinetyNineDragon: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 02:13, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- NinetyNineDragon has not commented on the above, and has not edited since May 28. I am marking this for closure unless someone wants to adopt this and address the above concerns. Z1720 (talk) 00:57, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Given that this is an anime-related DYK, pinging either Lullabying or Miraclepine to see if either is willing to adopt this nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:32, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- I've taken a look at the article and regretfully I would second this being closed. The article right now doesn't seem to meet WP:DYKCOMPLETE and lacks more information about its development (i.e. information about its production, how it was made, how it adapted, and so on). The lack of information also means it is lacking in other possible hook options. Given concerns have been raised about the earlier proposal and how nothing else seems suitable, it seems that the article just isn't a good fit for DYK at this time. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:47, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
Taste of Summer
- ... that there is a seasonal festival in Tasmania that has received yachties from all around the world for the New Year's celebrations for more than 30 years?
- Source: Hall, C. Michael (2008-09-10). Food and Wine Festivals and Events Around the World (1 ed.). Routledge. pp. 113–130. doi:10.4324/9780080887951. ISBN 978-0-08-088795-1.
- Reviewed:
Lautreca11 (talk) 10:15, 16 May 2024 (UTC).
- Comments by Tbhotch
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- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems:
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- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
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Overall: @Lautreca11: I copy-edited the article. As a tip, refer to WP:SEAOFBLUE, we don't normally link common words or countries. A newly expanded article that is long enough. The article uses sources sources I cannot access, so I am going to assume good faith. The ones available are okay and mention what it is sourced. The picture is clear and free. No QPQ required; this is the first nomination. I am not approving it due to three queries. 1st: sourcing; I added a citation needed tag, that's the only issue. 2nd: neutrality, several sentences are written as promotion sentences written in a WP:Wikivoice tone: For example: "By having a strong main theme and a high profile, the festival is popular and relevant to locals who support this event with their community energy" or "The Taste of Summer highlights the region local produce". It is not the same as saying this: "According to The Writer / The Source, [text]", "The Writer / The Source considers that [text]". I recommend you to re-read the article as if you were the reader rather than the writer and identify these sentences and quotes and attribute them to the source." 3rd: the hook. It is not directly mentioned in the article, even though it is implied, it is part of the rules: "The facts of the hook need to appear in the article with a citation no later than at the end of the sentences in which they appear." (CC) Tbhotch™ 19:45, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
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- @Lautreca11: any update on the third point? (CC) Tbhotch™ 03:59, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- Dear Tbhotch, thanks for your message. My final submition was on the 24th so I am not sure if I can do anything else while I receive my mark. Anyway, do I have to submit a new DYK or is it possible to edit the initial one?
* Working (CC) Tbhotch™ 22:12, 7 June 2024 (UTC)- @Lautreca11: Sorry for the late response, this page got lost on my watchlist. As a tip, you can see the template {{ping}} and the editor so they can be notified. Back to the review, I re-reviewed the article, but point three above is still missing. The hook reads: Did you know that there is a seasonal festival in Tasmania that has received yachties from all around the world for the New Year's celebrations for more than 30 years? The article doesn't establish this automatically, you can assume it if you read the whole page. For example.
- "Did you know that there is a seasonal festival in Tasmania" → The Taste of Summer Festival, previously known as the Taste of Tasmania, is an annual event held in Hobart, Tasmania
- "that has received yachties" → One of its main goals was to entertain the competitors of the Sydney to Hobart Yacht Race
- "from all around the world" → drawing in both locals and tourists from around the globe.
- "for the New Year's celebrations" → Hobart's waterfront is the place where New Year's Eve festivities are celebrated, including the Sydney to Hobart Yacht Race
- "for more than 30 years" → Its origins back to 1988 when the Hobart City Council introduced it as part of the Hobart Summer Festival
- As we can read, this is implied, but the DYK rules require the hook to be present in the article and backed up by a source. We have multiple implications that do not necessarily back up the original hook. The all around the world statement is not mentioned anywhere (the word "world" is mentioned twice, but not in this specific context), and "for more than 30 years" is vague because the article doesn't establish that the Taste of Tasmania was the event "the Hobart City Council introduced it as part of the Hobart Summer Festival"; the infobox says that the Taste of Tasmania/Summer has been active from 2003 to 2024. You need to back up the hook in the article with a respective source. Otherwise, you need an alternate hook. You can leave alternatives below with a bolded ALT1, ALT2, etc. (CC) Tbhotch™ 22:52, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Baubau
- ... that Baubau city filed two different budgets at the same time, resulting it to lose their chance at becoming capital of Southeast Sulawesi? Source: "Beberapa sebab terpilihnya Kota Kendari sebagai Ibukota Provinsi Sulawesi Tenggara di antaranyakalah jumlah suara pada saat pemilihan untuk penentuan ibukota. Selain itu,terjadi malbirokrasi di mana ada dinas di Kota Baubau yang mengajukan anggaran dua versi dan yang mengajukan dua orang, sehingga terjadi dualisme dalam satu dinas. Akibatnya,kekacauan dalam sistem birokrasi dan tata pemerintahan sangat mungkin terjadi jika Kota Baubau menjadi ibukota provinsi. Oleh karena itu, Mendagri dan Otonomi Daerah dalam keputusannya mengesahkan Kota Kendari sebagai Ibukota Provinsi Sulawesi Tenggara." Rabani, L. O., Purwanto, B., & Margana, S. (2020). Politik dan Ekonomi di Dua Kota: Baubau dan Kendari pada tahun 1950an–1960an. MOZAIK HUMANIORA, 20(1), 39–56. https://doi.org/10.20473/mozaik.v20i1.15746
- ALT1: ... that Baubau city has a fortress made out of coral reefs and limestones? Source: "Benteng Wolio dibangun dengan bahan baku berupa batu karang, pasir, dan kapur. Dalam sistem pengetahuan setempat, bahan perekat material benteng menggunakan putih telur ayam." https://books.google.co.id/books?id=HRHszgEACAAJ&newbks=0&hl=id&redir_esc=y (Page 49)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Minnesota State Highway 36
- Comment: Newly expanded 5 times, CE will be very appreciated thank you. Also special request to be posted on 29th July.
Nyanardsan (talk) 01:44, 16 May 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, but special occasion requests for more than six weeks require consensus at WT:DYK. I'd also expect a more merciless prepbuilder to truncate ALT0 at 'time'.--Launchballer 18:33, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Nyanardsan: Please complete a QPQ, and link it above. Thanks, Z1720 (talk) 02:11, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- QPQ added. I also would like to highlight my request once again. I am fine if it must go through consensus at WT:DYK and any modification/ALTs are also fine as long as it mentions the city's name. Nyanardsan (talk) 03:26, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- This is not a review but I would oppose the special occasion request. For one thing, the significance of the date is not even stated in the nomination, plus there is no mention of the date in the article. Thus it is not even clear what the significance of July 29 to the subject is. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:34, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 17
Rashmika Mandanna
... that Rashmika Mandanna made her debut in 2016 opposite Rakshit Shetty in the Kannada romance Kirik Party?- Reviewed:
19Arham (talk) 21:24, 17 May 2024 (UTC).
- A new hook is needed here as the hook may not be interesting or understandable to a broad audience, particularly if the reader is unfamiliar with Shetty. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:54, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- @19Arham: Can you suggest some additional hooks below? Z1720 (talk) 02:10, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that Rashmika Mandanna starred in the third highest-grossing Indian film of 2023 opposite Bollywood royalty, Ranbir Kapoor?
- That doesn't seem to be much of an improvement, not to mention referring to Kapoor as "Bollywood royalty" could fall afoul of WP:WTA. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:20, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- @19Arham: are there any other aspects of this article that could be a good hook? Proposing multiple hooks is more likely to get approved. @Narutolovehinata5: do you have any suggestions of interesting aspects in which to get a hook from? Z1720 (talk) 00:59, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not an expert on Bollywood so I'm probably not the best person to ask about this; besides, I didn't get much ideas from a quick skim of the article, but it could just be due to unfamiliarity with the subject. Launchballer has experience proposing ALTs for entertainers so maybe they'd have some ideas. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:09, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Rashmika Mandanna was reluctant to accept her first Hindi cinema role as she disagreed with her character's views on spirituality? jumps out, although there may be others. Also @19Arham: I strongly recommend submitting an image with this nomination, as all of the images are Creative Commons.--Launchballer 20:23, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not an expert on Bollywood so I'm probably not the best person to ask about this; besides, I didn't get much ideas from a quick skim of the article, but it could just be due to unfamiliarity with the subject. Launchballer has experience proposing ALTs for entertainers so maybe they'd have some ideas. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:09, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @19Arham: are there any other aspects of this article that could be a good hook? Proposing multiple hooks is more likely to get approved. @Narutolovehinata5: do you have any suggestions of interesting aspects in which to get a hook from? Z1720 (talk) 00:59, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- That doesn't seem to be much of an improvement, not to mention referring to Kapoor as "Bollywood royalty" could fall afoul of WP:WTA. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:20, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2 sounds good and can be reviewed, though if anyone has additional hook suggestions that's also appreciated. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
International Register of Electors
- ... that expatriate Canadians added to the International Register of Electors may vote in Canadian elections in the electoral riding of their last Canadian address?
- Source: "Votes cast by Canadians living abroad count in the electoral district where they last lived before leaving Canada." at Voting rules for electors living outside of Canada
- ALT1: ... that as of 2019, inclusion in the International Register of Electors no longer requires residency in Canada in the preceding five years? Source: "Now, any Canadian expatriate qualified to vote, regardless of how long they have been out of the country" and "Previously, only citizens who had lived abroad for less than five years were allowed to vote." at List of countries where Canadian expats live disclosed for security reasons
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Rebecca Odes; see my DYK tracker.
- Comment: I welcome suggestions for shorter hooks, and a better alternative for ALT1, which is lacking some context.
Mindmatrix 16:37, 17 May 2024 (UTC).
- Article moved to mainspace the day it was nominated. Article is long enough, well-cited to reliable sources, presentable, and with no policy issues detected. Hooks are formatted and of good length, hook facts cited in article, verified from sources, and interesting. QPQ verified. ALT0 is probably the more interesting of the two. I'm going to hold the tick for a bit while I think about other hooks (per nom). (I had something interesting about the Quebec (provincial) list, as voters outside the province were more likely to vote "no" on sovereignty.) BTW, would you like to request this for Canada Day? – Reidgreg (talk) 16:36, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Xiaotian Quan
- ... that Xiaotian Quan (pictured), the loyal canine companion of the deity Erlang Shen, is worshipped as the protector of pets? Source: Yifang, Lian (8 November 2019). "寵物開刀別擔心!到廟裡找哮天犬求平安". Now News (in Chinese).
- ALT1: ... that the Tibetan Mastiff breed is believed to be descended from the celestial dog Xiaotian Quan (pictured)? Source: "哮天犬食日天狗 二郎神神獸 - 大公報". Hong Kong Ta Kung Wen Wei Media Group (in Chinese). 29 September 2009.
- ALT2: ... that the proverb "to bite the hand that feeds you" is believed to have originated from a story about Xiaotian Quan (pictured) and Lü Dongbin, one of the Eight Immortals? Source: 台灣俗語諺語辭典(精) (in Chinese). 五南圖書出版股份有限公司. 1 July 2022. ISBN 978-626-317-913-4.
- Reviewed:
TheGreatPeng (talk) 12:36, 17 May 2024 (UTC).
- Article is new enough, more than long enough, and very well sourced. Hook is interesting and well-sourced, with a minor problem: while the source is Taiwanese, the article does not actually state that the worship actually takes place in Taiwan. Maybe just drop "in Taiwan", especially since the article mentions other countries like Malaysia as well? ALT1 is a bit dull, ALT2 is otherwise OK but "is said to have" is a bit weak. The image would otherwise be good, but it's a bit muddy/unclear and the dog is barely visible. (Not a blocker though, the image is optional anyway). Jpatokal (talk) 23:46, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- @TheGreatPeng: Jpatokal (talk) 23:46, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Jpatokal:, Thank you for noticing. These days, I have returned to the U.S. and have had no time to edit on Wikipedia. Please pardon me. I have now fixed the issues you requested. Thanks. TheGreatPeng (talk) 06:46, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you so much. I already fixed image blur and color tone. TheGreatPeng (talk) 13:37, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- @TheGreatPeng: Jpatokal (talk) 23:46, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Request' - Hi, DYK promoter, As a newbie, I have made 4 or 5 DYK articles, but none of them were chosen with a photo. So if possible, please promote this DYK with an image. Thanks TheGreatPeng (talk) 13:40, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- @TheGreatPeng and Jpatokal: the article contains significant WP:PLAGIARISM of non-English copyrighted sources, breaking WP:NONENGPLAG. For example, the paragraphs beginning "According to folklore..." and "There is also a legend..." are functionally identical to direct translations of the cited sources. The article needs significant rewriting, or this nomination will be rejected. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:53, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Now I have an exam and pls wait . Thanks TheGreatPeng (talk) 06:39, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Anna Russell Cole
- ... that Anna Russell Cole (pictured), a devout Methodist, was instrumental in supporting Vanderbilt University's independence from the church, donating significantly to its endowment campaign? Source: Turner, William B. (February 2000). "Cole, Anna Virginia Russell". American National Biography. New York: Oxford University Press. doi:10.1093/anb/9780198606697.article.2001271. (subscription required), Notable American Women, 1607-1950 A Biographical Dictionary · Volume 2, page 358
- ALT0a: ... that Anna Russell Cole (pictured), a devout Methodist, was key in supporting Vanderbilt University's independence from the church's hierarchy, donating to its endowment campaign? Source: Same as above.
- ALT1: ... In 1926, Anna Russell Cole (pictured), a significant benefactor of Vanderbilt University, donated $10,000 to endow the office of dean of women? Source: Same as above.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Eurovision Song Contest 1974
- Comment:
QPQ will be done promptly.Done.
X (talk) 02:54, 17 May 2024 (UTC).
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Drew Thomas
- ... that Drew Thomas, a former car salesman, was named the best local comedian by Creative Loafing?
- Source:
- McIntyre, Michael K. (2019-04-17). "Drew Thomas at the MGM Northfield, and the Alan Cox Show Comedy Tour hits the Cleveland Masonic". The Plain Dealer. Archived from the original on 2024-05-19. Retrieved 2024-05-19.
The article notes: "Thomas, who has appeared on NBC’s “Last Comic Standing” and has made several other national appearances, started comedy after six years as a car salesman selling Toyotas."
- "Best Local Comedian". Creative Loafing. Archived from the original on 2024-05-19. Retrieved 2024-05-19.
The article notes: "BEST LOCAL COMEDIAN BOA AWARD WINNER. Year » 2006. Section » Print Features » Special Issue » Best of Atlanta » 2006 » Poets, Artists, & Madmen » Critics Pick Drew Thomas"
- ALT1: ... that Drew Thomas, a former car salesman, reached the finals of the NBC show Last Comic Standing? Source: Overcash, Anita (2010-12-14). "Comedy: Drew Thomas". Creative Loafing Charlotte. Archived from the original on 2024-05-19. Retrieved 2024-05-19.
The article notes: "Atlanta-based comedian Drew Thomas didn't become a finalist on NBC's Last Comic Standing without good cause."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Devil's Chord
- ALT1: ... that Drew Thomas, a former car salesman, reached the finals of the NBC show Last Comic Standing? Source: Overcash, Anita (2010-12-14). "Comedy: Drew Thomas". Creative Loafing Charlotte. Archived from the original on 2024-05-19. Retrieved 2024-05-19.
Cunard (talk) 04:01, 19 May 2024 (UTC).
- Hooks seem interesting and are supported by references. Article is new and the correct length. However, some of the article's first section lacks inline citations. Once these are added I think it is good to go. TDogg310 (talk) 23:29, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review, TDogg310 (talk · contribs). Wikipedia:Did you know/Guidelines#External policy compliance says (bolding added for emphasis):
Every paragraph in the article is cited except for the lead. This complies with the guideline because "that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article" does not need to be cited. The guideline Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section#Citations says:The article must be based on reliable sources, which must be cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
The subject is not complex or controversial (and none of the material in the lead is contentious), so the guideline does not require citations in the lead. Cunard (talk) 10:25, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Because the lead usually repeats information that is in the body, editors should balance the desire to avoid redundant citations in the lead with the desire to aid readers in locating sources for challengeable material. Although the presence of citations in the lead is neither required in every article nor prohibited in any article, there is no exception to citation requirements specific to leads. The necessity for citations in a lead should be determined on a case-by-case basis by editorial consensus. Complex, current, or controversial subjects may require many citations; others, few or none.
- Thank you for the review, TDogg310 (talk · contribs). Wikipedia:Did you know/Guidelines#External policy compliance says (bolding added for emphasis):
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Praetorium of Constantinople
- ... that in the Praetorium of Constantinople the brothers Theodorus and Theophanes (pictured) had twelve iambic verses branded on their forehead and torso?
- Source: Senina (2008), pp. 267-268
- Reviewed: Red Sea mangroves
- Comment: I will do the QPQ asap.
Alex2006 (talk) 16:11, 20 May 2024 (UTC).
- @Alessandro57: You still need to provide a QPQ as it has been over two weeks since the nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:03, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: you are right, sorry, QPQ done. Alex2006 (talk) 05:56, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: AGF on non-English sources, although was able to verify the basic facts elsewhere. Only concern would be the last sentence of the introduction: "At least two buildings with this function existed in the city". It is unclear if this is talking about jails, or places where the prefect dispensed justice. @Alessandro57: - Are you able to address this? CSJJ104 (talk) 16:28, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- You are right, @CSJJ104:, it wasn't clear, thanks. Updated everywhere with sources. Alex2006 (talk) 11:10, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Alessandro57: Reading this with the recent additions, is the article intended to cover both buildings, or just the one? If it's covering both then possibly it should be moved to Praetoria of Constantinople, otherwise the article should make clear which building it covers. CSJJ104 (talk) 12:49, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
Jump (Tyla, Gunna, and Skillibeng song)
... that a fusion of international talent "Jump" by South African singer Tyla, American rapper Gunna and Jamaican singer as well as rapper Skillibeng is a collaborative song which blends Tyla's melodious vocals, Gunna's rap prowess, and Skillibeng's dancehall flair, marking a vibrant cross-genre collaboration that's making waves globally? Source: ' ' 'Source:' ' 'For 6 consecutive weeks, the song has maintained the number one position on the UK's biggest premier chart for afrobeats songs, which ranks them according to sales and streams over a 7 day period: [12]American rapper Gunna and South African singer Tyla traveled to Johannesburg, South Africa, Tyla's hometown, to film the official music video: [13]- Reviewed:
- Comment: "Jump" by Tyla, Gunna and Skillibeng achieved remarkable success, reaching the number 1 spot on The UK’s biggest Afrobeats songs chart for six consecutive weeks. The collaboration between American rapper Gunna , Jamaican musician Skillibeng and South African singer Tyla, filmed in Johannesburg, South Africa, showcases the global appeal and cross-cultural influence of contemporary music. The song's popularity underscores the growing recognition and appreciation of African music on an international scale. "Jump" exemplifies the fusion of diverse musical styles and talents, resulting in a chart-topping hit with widespread appeal. "Jump" has earned millions of streams and downloads worldwide since its release.
Qaqaamba (talk) 12:36, 20 May 2024 (UTC).
- Hooks should contain a bolded link to the article and be under 200 characters long, so I've struck it. Please propose something much shorter.--Launchballer 12:48, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that "Jump" is a cross-genre collaboration blending South African singer Tyla's vocals, American rapper Gunna's trap, and Jamaican musician Skillibeng's dancehall? "Jump" stands out as the sole hip hop or trap and dancehall infused song on Tyla's eponymous debut studio album, Tyla. Qaqaamba (talk) 13:23, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- 162 characters after adding an oxford comma, which I have added to the article title. Full review needed.--Launchballer 14:59, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that "Jump" is a cross-genre collaboration blending singer Tyla's vocals, American rapper Gunna's rap and Jamaican musician Skillibeng's, dancehall? Qaqaamba (talk) 15:07, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3:… that "Jump" was the only trap-infused recording on Tyla? dxneo (talk) 09:52, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Qaqaamba and Dxneo: As per WP:DYKINT, the hook should be "perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest." Might I suggest something maybe to do with the "Haibo!" adlib, the famous Hillbrow Tower in the video, or perhaps the viral "they ain't never had a pretty girl from..." trend? —cybertrip👽 ( 💬 • 📝) 08:35, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3:… that "Jump" was the only trap-infused recording on Tyla? dxneo (talk) 09:52, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that "Jump" is a cross-genre collaboration blending South African singer Tyla's vocals, American rapper Gunna's trap, and Jamaican musician Skillibeng's dancehall? "Jump" stands out as the sole hip hop or trap and dancehall infused song on Tyla's eponymous debut studio album, Tyla. Qaqaamba (talk) 13:23, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Jerzy Kosinski: A Biography
- ... that a biography of Jerzy Kosinski was published five years after his death? Source: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-05-12-bk-3077-story.html
- ALT1: ... that one of the reviewers of Jerzy Kosinski: A Biography argued that the book is both neutral but also an "apologia" and "justification of the misdeeds of a brilliantly flawed friend" of the author? Source: see https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-05-12-bk-3077-story.html
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/American Colossus: Big Bill Tilden and the Creation of Modern Tennis
- Comment: I am having trouble coming up with a hook. First one is boring, hope the second one is more interesting.
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:52, 20 May 2024 (UTC).
- Article is well sourced and neutral. It's new enough and long enough. QPQ looks to be underway at Template:Did you know nominations/American Colossus: Big Bill Tilden and the Creation of Modern Tennis. I agree that the hooks could be more interesting, and I think it's because it glosses over why this person is notable. (Both in the hook and in the article body.) Following the links the article about the man himself, there's probably a way to describe at least one aspect of what earned him coverage in reliable sources. Either his fiction, his personal life, or both. Shooterwalker (talk) 15:57, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, this still has a lot of potential. I wanted to check back in to see when you have time to work on this again. Shooterwalker (talk) 16:19, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Giving a ping to @Piotrus:. Shooterwalker (talk) 02:18, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Shooterwalker, Sorry, my watchlist is not usable (too big), so I can see only pings. Do you have any suggestions for a more interesting hook? I am open to ideas, but as I said, I can't think of anything better, and I think the proposed hooks are "good enough" for DYK rules. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:51, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- That's ok, Piotrus. I think it's hard to come up with this because the article doesn't really summarize the contents of the book. The article summarizes several reviews of the book, but we don't have the context of what they're reviewing.
- Not to create too much more work, but would it be possible to get a short summary of the book in the contents section? It could be similar to the main Jerzy Kosinski article, plus even one sentence about the viewpoint/thesis of the author. If that's too much of a pain, plan B would be to scrape something from the review section. I can do my best to come up with something, but it would definitely be easier with more about the contents of the book. Shooterwalker (talk) 00:28, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Shooterwalker, The problem is that the reviews do not, as far as I recall, provide any comprehensive information on the book's contents, which I assume is a biography of Kosinski, and the reviewers assume everyone will figure that out, I guess. They do not talk about chapter structure or such, just occasionally engage with some parts of his biography presented in the book the reviewer found interesting. And there is the issue of trying to make this article (and hook) be about the book and not about Kosinski's biography, which after all is a different article... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:40, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- That's okay. We can work without it. I think the hook would end up overlapping with aspects of the subject of the book, but let me see what I can come up with. Shooterwalker (talk) 15:01, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Piotrus How about this:
- ALT1a: ... that Jerzy Kosinski: A Biography described its subject as a "liar", and yet, one reviewer felt that the author's "studiously neutral position ends up sounding like an apologia for Kosinski".
- It leaves out a lot, but hopefully refines the original idea to invite more curiosity. Shooterwalker (talk) 15:15, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Shooterwalker, Sure, it's likely more interesting that what I came up with. I've no problem "adopting" it so you can approve it :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:04, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- That sounds good to me. I approve ALT1a. (I also don't mind if another editor wants to come by with further revisions.) Shooterwalker (talk) 02:08, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Piotrus and Shooterwalker: An article comprising of one lead sentence, two single-sentence sections and one six paragraph Reception section comprising 92% of the article is a unmitigated WP:DYKCOMPLETE fail.--Launchballer 07:57, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Launchballer, Nope. The article pretty comprehensively covers the topic; there is not much else to write about it. I scoured the sources for anything relevant and it is already here. You can't call an article incomplete if there is no source covering other stuff, whatever that other stuff would be. Catalogue bibliographic information + reception is all that exists on this and all that we can therefore include. PS. That said, I'll expand the lead a bit more, since it is too short and did not cover the aforementioned reception. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:31, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- That's a bit better; I've knocked together the two short sections per MOS:OVERSECTION. I'd question whether merely stating the obvious is enough given "an article about a book that fails to summarize the book's contents [...] is likely to be rejected as insufficiently comprehensive", but I'll hear from another promoter. I also don't see how any of the hooks on this page meet WP:DYKINT; I can suggest the following: ALT2: ... that a New York Times reviewer felt that Jerzy Kosinski: A Biography was perhaps "written in unusual haste" despite being written five years after Kosinski's death?, but you'll need an end-of-sentence citation.--Launchballer 08:59, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Launchballer, Citation added but isn't repeated the same footnote in two consecutive sentences also against MoS? And tnx for the hook idea, it is fine and we can consider it as well. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:13, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- I know this might take a significant amount of research, but is it possible to skim the primary source, and offer some more detail about the book's contents? I imagine it overlaps with his actual life story, and we wouldn't need a full read to gather that. Reading the bio would be more to look for a few examples of the author's overall thesis and tone. A couple sentences in this article would do it. Shooterwalker (talk) 16:33, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- That sounds good to me. I approve ALT1a. (I also don't mind if another editor wants to come by with further revisions.) Shooterwalker (talk) 02:08, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Shooterwalker, Sure, it's likely more interesting that what I came up with. I've no problem "adopting" it so you can approve it :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:04, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Piotrus How about this:
- That's okay. We can work without it. I think the hook would end up overlapping with aspects of the subject of the book, but let me see what I can come up with. Shooterwalker (talk) 15:01, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Shooterwalker, The problem is that the reviews do not, as far as I recall, provide any comprehensive information on the book's contents, which I assume is a biography of Kosinski, and the reviewers assume everyone will figure that out, I guess. They do not talk about chapter structure or such, just occasionally engage with some parts of his biography presented in the book the reviewer found interesting. And there is the issue of trying to make this article (and hook) be about the book and not about Kosinski's biography, which after all is a different article... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:40, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Flyover (book)
- ... that Flyover, a 2023 American science fiction novel portraying a dystopian future where part of the USA became a theocracy, has been published in French but not yet in English? Source: https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2023/07/22/lara-marlowe-this-vision-of-a-divided-totalitarian-us-does-not-seem-much-like-fiction/ and https://www.economist.com/culture/2024/04/11/americans-are-turning-to-stories-of-civil-war-real-and-imagined
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:24, 20 May 2024 (UTC).
- The clause adds interest, but I wonder if a snappier and more concise version of the hook also works:
- ALT1 ... that the 2023 American novel Flyover has been published in French but not yet in English?
- Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:16, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- WP has strong precedent for discussing any fictional events in present tense, i.e. "becomes" instead of "became" Orchastrattor (talk) 19:19, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 21
LS Power
- ... that LS Power has the largest non-utility owned energy storage portfolio in the United States, including pumped-storage hydroelectricity and lithium-ion battery storage?
AdJHu 胡 03:50, 22 May 2024 (UTC).
Jacob Green Jackson
- ... that Jackson Demonstration State Forest was named in honor of American lumberman Jacob Green Jackson (pictured)?
- Source: California Coastal Commission, ed. (1987). California Coastal Resource Guide. University of California Press. p. 119. ISBN 978-0-520-06186-6. Retrieved 21 May 2024.
SL93 (talk) 19:00, 21 May 2024 (UTC).
- Article was created on same day as nom. It's adequately long and does not have indications suggesting any issues. AGF on the book sources, hook is verified. QPQ complete. Everything is good to go. B3251(talk) 13:47, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Golden Girls (play)
- ... that to prepare for their roles as athletes in the play Golden Girls, Kenneth Branagh and Jimmy Yuill undertook fitness training led by Brian Blessed?
- Source: Branagh, Kenneth (1991). Beginning. New York: St. Martin's Press. ISBN 978-0-312-05822-7., p.153: "Jimmy and I enlisted the help of Brian Blessed, the Company’s fitness fanatic, who agreed to take us through a training programme"
- ALT1: ... that before reading the script for the play Golden Girls, at least nine of the cast members were under the impression that they would be taking the lead role? Source: Branagh, Kenneth (1991). Beginning. New York: St. Martin's Press. ISBN 978-0-312-05822-7., p.152: "I asked around. Jimmy Yuill, Josette Simon, Polly James, Kate Bufferey. They were all playing the lead, and that made nine of us in total."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Municipal Asphalt Plant
- Comment: Suggestions for ALT hooks welcome.
BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 10:47, 21 May 2024 (UTC).
- New enough and long enough. QPQ present. Must AGF on the offline source. No textual issues. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:42, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Voluntary war
- ... that in the Israelite traditional laws of armed conflict it was permissible for a Jewish soldier to forcibly have marital relations with a beautiful woman who had been taken captive?
- ALT1: ... that in the Israelite traditional laws of armed conflict it was permissible for a Jewish soldier to rape and forcibly marry a beautiful woman who had been made a prisoner of war?
- Source: Eisenstein, Judah D. (1970). A Digest of Jewish Laws and Customs - in Alphabetical Order (Ozar Dinim u-Minhagim) (in Hebrew). Tel-Aviv: Ḥ. mo. l. pp. 228–229 (s.v. מלחמה). OCLC 54817857.; Babylonian Talmud, Kiddushin 21b–22a
- Reviewed:
Davidbena (talk) 04:30, 21 May 2024 (UTC).
- Drive by comment: "forcibly have marital relations" should either be changed to "rape and forcibly marry" or attributed to a source, this is far too euphemistic to have in Wikipedia's voice. Rusalkii (talk) 05:03, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, I'll make the change, although I do think that it is a bit too strong.Davidbena (talk) 11:44, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I don't see how the word "rape" can be in the hook if it isn't in the article. I also think "traditional" may be misleading, unless they are still in effect or only recently stopped being active laws; if they haven't been in effect for hundreds or even thousands of years, then that should be clear as well. Note to Davidbena: rather than edit hooks in situ, please show any revised wordings as an alternate hook (i.e., ALT1, ALT2). I've done so to restore your original hook and show the requested revision as ALT1. Thanks. Also, don't forget to supply your QPQ review (see WP:QPQ); you're supposed to do so within seven days of nominating, and definitely within seven days of being reminded to do so. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:18, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset:, thanks for your comment. Sometimes it is common practice among writers to use "euphemisms" in Belles-lettres and in prose, rather than use a word having the exact same meaning, but viewed as repugnant (e.g. "to forcibly have marital relations" instead of writing "to rape"). Would it help if I put, in the article, the word "rape" in parentheses, immediately following the words "to forcibly have marital relations"? If so, an alternate reading of the hook can be this:
- ALT2: ... that in the Israelite traditional laws of armed conflict it was permissible for a Jewish soldier to forcibly have marital relations with (i.e. rape) a beautiful woman who had been made a prisoner of war?
- Alt2 is my preferred hook, as it clarifies everything. I will also go ahead and add "rape" in the main article. As for your question about use of the word "traditional," the word is still applicable today, since Jews in Israel recognize these ancient customs as being bona-fide Jewish traditions. They, in fact, could still be upheld today if we had an active Sanhedrin, which, in this case, we don't. Another option might simply be to write, instead of "traditional," the word "obsolete." This word, however, is tricky, because if the Sanhedrin were ever to be reinstated, these laws of warfare would still be applicable today. Finally, I do not understand what you mean by saying that I must supply my QPQ review. Give me time to read-up on this.Davidbena (talk) 23:06, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- To the best of my knowledge, I have nominated four articles on "Did you know...", and this present article, if accepted, will be my fifth. The rules in WP:QPQ state that if I've nominated 5 or more articles, only then would I be required to work on the nomination of another person's DYK. I take that to mean that I can begin doing that now. Okay, no problem.Davidbena (talk) 23:35, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset:, I have begun the review process of the DYK article here.Davidbena (talk) 00:54, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset:, thanks for your comment. Sometimes it is common practice among writers to use "euphemisms" in Belles-lettres and in prose, rather than use a word having the exact same meaning, but viewed as repugnant (e.g. "to forcibly have marital relations" instead of writing "to rape"). Would it help if I put, in the article, the word "rape" in parentheses, immediately following the words "to forcibly have marital relations"? If so, an alternate reading of the hook can be this:
- Comment: I don't see how the word "rape" can be in the hook if it isn't in the article. I also think "traditional" may be misleading, unless they are still in effect or only recently stopped being active laws; if they haven't been in effect for hundreds or even thousands of years, then that should be clear as well. Note to Davidbena: rather than edit hooks in situ, please show any revised wordings as an alternate hook (i.e., ALT1, ALT2). I've done so to restore your original hook and show the requested revision as ALT1. Thanks. Also, don't forget to supply your QPQ review (see WP:QPQ); you're supposed to do so within seven days of nominating, and definitely within seven days of being reminded to do so. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:18, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, I'll make the change, although I do think that it is a bit too strong.Davidbena (talk) 11:44, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: and @Rusalkii:, this is to remind you that I have just concluded the work on another author's DYK (see Talk:Architects' Tombs), in order to qualify for approval of my own DYK. Hope that things can be expedited here.Davidbena (talk) 22:25, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- Full review needed now that QPQ has been submitted. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:57, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Gary Orfield
- ... that academic Gary Orfield was called upon to be an expert witness in the University of Michigan Supreme Court case, Grutter v. Bollinger?
--evrik (talk) 04:11, 21 May 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on May 22
Lois E. Trott
- ... that American educator Lois E. Trott (pictured) ran the first lodging house for homeless girls in America, providing shelter and support for over 1,000 girls annually, all without receiving any payment? Source: A Woman of the Century
- ALT0a: ... that American educator Lois E. Trott (pictured) managed the first lodging house for homeless girls in America, providing shelter and support for over 1,000 girls annually, without receiving any remuneration? Source: A Woman of the Century
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sam Kee Building
X (talk) 14:59, 22 May 2024 (UTC).
- General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems:
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
- Other problems:
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Overall: The article was created on 22 May 2024. It has a readable prose size of 3211 characters. QPQ not yet done. WP:EARWIG shows now copyvios. More comments later.
Each paragraph has a source. Some parts of the lead and the section "Early life and education" sound very similar to the text in Moulton 1893, p. 722. This needs to be rewritten to avoid WP:CLOSEPARAPHRASE. I didn't check the rest of the article so please make sure that the problem is not found in other parts as well. The hooks are interesting and supported by the source. Both hooks are too long: they should be below 200 characters and ideally below 160 characters. The picture is freely licenced, used in the article, and clear. Phlsph7 (talk) 13:44, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Phlsph7: thanks for your evaluation. Some parts of the lead and the section "Early life and education" sound very similar Because they are similar. I've used it as a source material, and "the article merely presents standard facts for a topic like this in standard sequence. The article does not copy any creative words or phrases, similes or metaphors." And a direct comparison with the Moulton source shows no violation. However, all of these becomes irrelevant here because the dictionary is in public domain and properly attributed in the source section. Regardless PD or not, the article does not closely paraphrase, rather presents standard facts in an orderly sequence. WP:LIMITED exists. Although redundant, I've now added a PD template as well in the ref section (which is usually done if it's a case of somewhat direct copy-paste, although this isn't the case here). Re the blurb's lentgh, while nominating I made sure they are under 200 characters. And yes shorter blurbs would be better. We may simply remove the "American educator" bits: ALT0b ... that Lois E. Trott (pictured) ran the first lodging house for homeless girls in America, providing shelter and support for over 1,000 girls annually, all without receiving any payment? ALT0c... that Lois E. Trott (pictured) ran the first lodging house for homeless girls in America, providing shelter and support without receiving any payment?
Let me know which one you prefer or if have your own opinion. Regards. X (talk) 07:24, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- The template should solve the close-paraphrase problem. I wasn't aware that the phrase "(pictured)" does not count towards the character limit (per WP:DYK200), which means that the original hooks pass the test. I think all that remains is the QPQ. Phlsph7 (talk) 07:55, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
Khirbet el-Qutt
- ... that hiding complexes from the Bar Kokhba revolt were found in Khirbet el-Qutt and other places in ancient Samaria?
- Source: "Khirbet el-Qutt -A Fortified Jewish Village in Southern Samaria from the Second Temple Period and the Bar Kokhba Revolt"; "Jewish Settlement in the Toparchy of Acraba during the Second Temple Period - The Archaeological Evidence". Judea and Samaria Research Studies8. 18: 177–200 – via academia.edu; "תולדות היישוב בהר שומרון בתקופה הרומית־ביזנטית". kotar.cet.ac.il. Retrieved 2024-05-21.
- Reviewed:
Owenglyndur (talk) 13:48, 22 May 2024 (UTC).
- I have begun the review process of this DYK, and the hook seems good and accurate, based on the sources cited. The article is also new enough, having been created on 21 May 2024.
Article length and age are fine; no copyright violations or plagiarism concerns; reliable sources are used. The article, however, can be improved by using the common spelling "archaeological" (instead of "archeological"). This will bring uniformity in spelling, as, currently, both spellings are used in the article.Davidbena (talk) 00:50, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- A suggested improvement might be to add the word "underground" in the hook, even though the link explains what is meant by "hiding complexes." Most editors will not click onto the link, and therefore it is helpful to add this clarification at the very outset. For example, ALT1 ... that underground hiding complexes from the Bar Kokhba revolt were found in Khirbet el-Qutt and other places in ancient Samaria? (End Quote).Davidbena (talk) 01:04, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Davidbena: I just removed a copyright violation from the article and will be asking for the effected revisions to be deleted. I have not yet check the rest of the article, but given a COPYVIO issue here and on other articles by User:OwenGlyndur (see the revision history of Ein Gedi synagogue and Ein Gedi archaeological site) I recommend that this nomination should be declined until we are confident that the remainder of this article does not breach WP:COPYVIO. Richard Nevell (talk) 19:35, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed. I overlooked the copyright violation. If the creator of this article wishes to rewrite (paraphrase) the sections that he plagiarized, there can be some redress to what was done.Davidbena (talk) 21:42, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note that after the recent copyvio deletions, the article at 1335 prose characters is too short to qualify for DYK (1500 prose character minimum). If it hasn't been expanded sufficiently within seven days, it should be marked as unsuccessful. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:00, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed. I overlooked the copyright violation. If the creator of this article wishes to rewrite (paraphrase) the sections that he plagiarized, there can be some redress to what was done.Davidbena (talk) 21:42, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Deir ed Darb
- ... that Deir ed Darb, Arabic for "monastery of the road", is in fact a Jewish monumental tomb dating to the Second Temple period?
- Source: Raviv D., 2013, "Magnificent Tombs from the Second Temple Period in Western Samaria - New Insights", In the Highland's Depth - Ephraim Range and Binyamin Research Studies, Vol. 3, Ariel-Talmon ,pp. 109-142. (Hebrew); Peleg-Barkat, Orit; Raviv (2019). "שלושה פריטים ארכיטקטוניים מן התקופה הרומית הקדומה מאזור הכפר קרוות בני חסן" (PDF). במעבה ההר. 9: 43–58; Palmer, H (1881). "The survey of western Palestine". p. 228.
- Reviewed:
Owenglyndur (talk) 13:24, 22 May 2024 (UTC).
- General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems:
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
- Other problems: - It appears that a paragraph uses content copied without attribution from Qarawat Bani Hassan
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Overall: Mariamnei (talk) 11:18, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Mariamnei: Did you mean to post a "maybe" status (purple slash) instead of an "again" status (red arrow)? The again status is for DYK that need another new reviewer, while the slash is for indicating that there is a concern with the article/nomination. Z1720 (talk) 23:27, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720: Hey there! This DYK overall looks pretty good, but since it's my first time doing a DYK review, I thought it'd be better to get another view. What do you think? Mariamnei (talk) 18:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Mariamnei: Since you outlined some concerns above, I'll let the nominator, Owenglyndur, address them. Z1720 (talk) 19:57, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, thank you for your comments and help to get the DYK right. I did not know i'm not allowed to copy some sentances from another Wikipedia article, especialy whemn it is so relevant for the article i wrote. I will not do it again in the future. Owenglyndur (talk) 07:18, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hey @Owenglyndur:, thanks for explaining that! Awesome, I see the pic is up on the article too. Looks like we're good to go! Mariamnei (talk) 08:39, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, thank you for your comments and help to get the DYK right. I did not know i'm not allowed to copy some sentances from another Wikipedia article, especialy whemn it is so relevant for the article i wrote. I will not do it again in the future. Owenglyndur (talk) 07:18, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Mariamnei: Since you outlined some concerns above, I'll let the nominator, Owenglyndur, address them. Z1720 (talk) 19:57, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720: Hey there! This DYK overall looks pretty good, but since it's my first time doing a DYK review, I thought it'd be better to get another view. What do you think? Mariamnei (talk) 18:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- Just a question; the article refers to a "Dar" ("Dar - late 70's", "in Dar's opinion", "led Dar to conclude that"), but I cannot find any reference to any "Dar"?, cheers, Huldra (talk) 22:51, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Also, it would have been nice to wikilink the SWP authors (Palmer, Conder, Kitchener) -and the page-links. Also; isn't the 3 and 7 references the same (except the page-no)? Why then is one marked in Hebrew, while the other is not? Also ref.3 has a red warning: "Cite journal requires journal=", cheers, Huldra (talk) 23:01, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, as i wrote in an earlier comment by you, i added Dar to the citations. Further more if you look at the citations you can see that Conder, Claude Reignier; Kitchener, Horatio Herbert; Palmer, Edward Henry; Besant, Walter, show In citation 7.
- @Owenglyndur, Mariamnei, and Huldra: Just to say I don't intend on promoting this while there is a {{clump}} in the lead section - which by rights shouldn't have any references in the first place.--Launchballer 08:06, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, i think i solved the Clump issue. To remove all citations from the lead?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Owenglyndur (talk • contribs)
I just realised; the artickle has the cats Tombs in Israel and Archaeological sites in Israel(!!) Neeedless to say(?), the place is not in Israel. If the author makes another such error, I will ask for a topic-ban from the IP area. Huldra (talk) 20:41, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
William Henry Harrison Seeley
- ... that William Henry Harrison Seeley was the first American recipient of the Victoria Cross?
- Reviewed: [[]]
- Comment: For the source, note that there are two newspaper sources that I couldn't get to as it seems that the access through The Wikipedia Library is down currently.
CommissarDoggoTalk? 10:50, 22 May 2024 (UTC).
- Comments by Tbhotch
General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems:
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- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
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Overall: An article that was recently promoted to GA. No picture to review. No QPQ is needed, this is your fourth nomination. No copyright issues on text and files. The hook is interesting and sourced. The article is sourced and I assume good faith on the inaccessible sources. (CC) Tbhotch™ 04:54, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
I'm really excited about the opening of Tuen Ma line
- ... that a train enthusiast was so excited about the opening of the Tuen Ma line that he sang about it?
- ALT1: ... that on this day three years ago, someone was really excited about the opening of Tuen Ma line? Source: SCMPMing Pao
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/REM de l'Est
- Comment: I'd like to request for the date to be June 27th since that day is the third anniversary of the opening of the line and the third anniversary of the phrase being said.
On another note, as I will be going to China from tomorrow until the 30th, and as most will know Wikipedia can't be used in China, I'd appreciate some patience if I don't answer until after that date. I might use roaming to make minor edits or answer some questions before then, but I likely won't make any large-scale edits until after.
S5A-0043Talk 08:51, 22 May 2024 (UTC).
- Comment (not a full review). Per the spirit of WP:BLP, I do not think an article about an autistic boy who became an internet meme is suitable for the Main Page, especially if the full name is mentioned. (The original media reports used 羅先生 (Mr. Law) or 羅同學 (Classmate Law); I do not know when and which HK media started using the full name). The article itself mentions doxxing and negative attention; posting on our Main Page has the potential to lead to further harm. I would suggest not to post this without clear consensus otherwise from a place like the BLP noticeboard. —Kusma (talk) 16:07, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Valereee and Kusma: I'll consolidate my response over here so as not to split the discussion too much and cause any confusion. For the person name, while the person is indeed referred as 羅同學 or 羅先生 a lot in Chinese media, the ones I found in English (SCMP and The Standard in particular) refer to the person by the full name Jason Law: [14][15][16][17]. In fact The Standard included the romanization of 哲琛 as well, but I decided against including it since it isn't really a critical detail in this case. My reasoning for the usage of the full name is based on WP:COMMONNAME, which states that we "generally prefer the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable, English-language sources" (emphasis added in italics). Yes this isn't an article title but nonetheless since "Mr Law" or "Classmate Law" isn't as widespread in English I don't think it'll be helpful in this case.
I'm not opposed to a discussion on WP:BLPN or somewhere else, but respectfully I'm not sure whether it still matters. As in, it's been three years since the phrase was first said. During these three years, not only has the person made further appearences and interviews [18][19], he has even appeared in an official MTR video re-enacting the scene [20][21]. I'm very sympathetic to his experience of being doxxed, but I genuinely think that given the time passage it isn't particularly as big of a deal as we may think. Him opening up about being doxxed was in 2021; he is still making appearences thanks to the notability from this phrase in 2022. If there was so much of a worry, he could've rejected any further publicity and we wouldn't be seeing him in the MTR video. In addition, there's been far less coverage about the doxxing as far as I can find compared to the more positive aspects, meaning most media (and in turn WP:RSes) don't think this is an important aspect to cover either. I hope I summed up my perspective well enough, and I'm open to any objections.
Regarding a possible merge as suggested on WT:DYK, my opinion would be oppose. The article easily passes WP:GNG with the number of sources covering the subject, and the MTR video shows that it still has a lasting effect even one year later. Plus, I'm not sure how the article can be merged. I already had a hard time finding articles to link to my article on existing content, and (at least for me) it's quite tough to add details of this event into other articles. S5A-0043Talk 02:28, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Valereee and Kusma: I'll consolidate my response over here so as not to split the discussion too much and cause any confusion. For the person name, while the person is indeed referred as 羅同學 or 羅先生 a lot in Chinese media, the ones I found in English (SCMP and The Standard in particular) refer to the person by the full name Jason Law: [14][15][16][17]. In fact The Standard included the romanization of 哲琛 as well, but I decided against including it since it isn't really a critical detail in this case. My reasoning for the usage of the full name is based on WP:COMMONNAME, which states that we "generally prefer the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable, English-language sources" (emphasis added in italics). Yes this isn't an article title but nonetheless since "Mr Law" or "Classmate Law" isn't as widespread in English I don't think it'll be helpful in this case.
- I find it difficult to judge whether he really embraces his popularity. His YouTube just looks like railfan stuff not trying to profit from his viral appearance. Happy to hear other opinions. —Kusma (talk) 09:10, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Seems like he's talked to reporters, so he's not shy about coverage – but this has to be an NEVENT fail, right? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 02:11, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- oh, maybe not. hm... i do think this would be better merged, but if we go through with this, let's be kind to the guy. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 02:13, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- I find it difficult to judge whether he really embraces his popularity. His YouTube just looks like railfan stuff not trying to profit from his viral appearance. Happy to hear other opinions. —Kusma (talk) 09:10, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
The Rise and Fall of the Dinosaurs
- ... that while reviewers generally praised The Rise and Fall of the Dinosaurs, one reviewer complained that the author "was so nice about his colleagues that it makes you long for a juicy academic vendetta"?
- Reviewed: Fewer than 5 past noms, no QPQ required
- Comment: I don't have a direct source for generally positive reviews, but I haven't been able to find a single review that didn't primarily praise the book. If this is an issue I can reword the hook to exclude that.
Rusalkii (talk) 04:54, 22 May 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on May 23
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