Talk:Bella Goth/GA2

GA Review

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Nominators: Boneless Pizza! (talk · contribs) Cukie Gherkin (talk · contribs) 04:41, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Maplestrip (talk · contribs) 08:23, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

I will be reviewing this article in the coming days. I divide my comments between those that need to be addressed in some form before the article can pass, and miscellaneous comments hopefully helpful for further improvements. I expect this to be a smooth one, on first viewing the article looks like a fine piece of work. I will be filling out this page as I go. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 08:23, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): Every sentence/paragraph is cited. b (citations to reliable sources): Surprisingly good! Not big on Screen Rant/Game Rant, but they're very sparingly used. The Buzzfeed looks terrible but I don't have much comment. Everything else is honestly kinda amazing in quality. c (OR): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: Reception is positive, controversy is clearly explained, I think this is all fine. It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: No problems It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): Correctly tagged and of correct level of detail. b (appropriate use with suitable captions): No problems, though missing alt text
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Items that need to be addressed

• Mangled sentence that I don't understand: (a characters that was used to distinguish Sims) Removing it instead, somehow looks a bit redundant
• Her redesign in The Sims 2 is left very vague. I was left wondering whether her skin-tone changed there as well. You should make clear that it's about fairly subtle facial features. Attempted arranging it  Done
• "Concept and creation" says there are two distinct Bellas in The Sims 2, but only one is described in the "Appearances" section.
• "It is eventually discovered" should be "In the Playstation Portable release, she appears ..." Attempted  Done

• I don't think this sentence is entirely grammatically correct and still needs a copy-edit. Who did the "discovering"? It also feels a bit written from an in-universe perspective, and why not include the fact that the Strangetown appearance is unique to the Playstation Portable release? For reference, this is the current sentence: "In the small desert town called Strangetown, she was eventually discovered and has another distinct appearance from a town called Pleasantview."

• [1] How about this? Or you mean "In the Playstation Portable release, she appears in Sims 2...."

• The Tab says nothing about Bella losing her memory, having a different voice, or her appearance changing. It says that she never loved Mortimer and ran away from him. Removed and reworded a bit  Done
• Going through the sources more, it feels to me like the alien abduction interpretation is technically also a fan-theory, just like the cloning. Is that right? ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 11:42, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

  Yes, those are all fan-theory. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 11:47, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

• Lunar Lakes blonde, burnt-out, exasperated zombie Bella Goth (as mentioned in the Gamespot video and the unused Escapist article) is not mentioned at all.

Miscellaneous comments

• The "Concept and creation" article skips directly from the character's introduction to her appearance three games later, in a way that feels extremely jarring. At least go chronological.  Done
• The first sentence of "Concept and creation" and the first sentence of "Appearances" (presumably) say the exact same thing.  Done reworded

  ... as one of the characters players.??

• The Tab says that "The one thing consistent about Bella Goth between the games is that she’s always a nice, friendly and well liked Sim around the town." This consistent characterization might be relevant for the article.  Done

  I was thinking of this as a recurring character trait for the "Appearances" section, but I guess this works.

  That's actually the opinion of a journalist, maybe it shouldn't really be at appearances.

• this Polygon source discusses how The Sims stories like that of Bella Goth spurred online collaborative storytelling culture. I think this is the type of context vital to understanding Bella's bizarre and incomplete story. I couldn't quite figure out why everything was so confusing until I read this: "I quickly discovered, and fell in love with, these storytelling communities. Through them, I’d find players who wrote behind-the-scenes blogs about which details they picked up from the games, and what their interpretations were; which details they left out; and which confusing ones they tried to reconcile (while some of are brilliant, there’s definitely a lot of inconsistencies in The Sims 2)."  Done I added, but not the entire quote".

  I think you misunderstood: I pointed out this paragraph as helpful context for the article. This paragraph helped me understand that Bella Goth's inconsistencies are the main appeal and is what makes all the fan-theories happen. It makes clear that most of the content of this article is about fan-theories rather than dry lore. I was hoping this context could be placed somewhere early on in the article. (Additionally, the Livejournal/Tumblr communities do also seem like specific impact of the character).

  I placed in the second sentence at the third paragraph now. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 11:36, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Comment I believed I resolved everything Maplestrip. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 11:04, 23 May 2024 (UTC)